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At what point do people give up investing anything into Google's ecosystem? How do they plan on gaining any market share in AI space? I think subconsciously I

At what point do people give up investing anything into Google's ecosystem? How do they plan on gaining any market share in AI space? I think subconsciously I avoided Bard because I had little faith anything beyond search or email will live more than a couple years.

omnifischer 3y ago
it is good that they try and if it does not work shut it. At the same time people complain microsoft and others stagnate.
- pavel_lishin 3y ago
  I have two counterpoints: 1. "does not work" is wildly subjective. Google Reader was tremendously awesome. It "worked" for a lot of people. 2. Even when something doesn't work, they don't just shut it; they shut down one project, and start two competing ones with slightly overlapping feature sets. And now you get to choose which one you want to eventually migrate away from when they inevitably shut it down, as well, in favor of another set of competing internal projects. I think they shut things down when it doesn't work for Google, and that really doesn't give me an incentive to use any Google product. I'm still on gmail, and I'm betting that they won't dare shut that down - can you imagine? - but I absolutely will not invest any time or money into anything else they offer.
  - toyg 3y ago
    > "does not work" is wildly subjective. Oh no, no no no. There is only one subject that matters at Google nowadays, and it is "how much does this thing help us sell ads...?" Mail? Great. Maps? Fabulous. Reader, aka a bunch of nerds talking to each other about geeky subjects? ...Nah.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      Then as a user the only sensible action is to assume that nothing else will ever work again and proceed accordingly.
- saghm 3y ago
  Sure, but "shut it and then immediately try to make it again" is where it gets silly
- rurp 3y ago
  It's an app that plays podcasts, just like dozens of other apps out there. What exactly are they innovating on that has taken four total rewrites to get right? I've been using the same podcast app for probably 10+ years and have zero complaints. Not having to waste time migrating every few years is a better than any new feature Google is adding.
- lxgr 3y ago
  There wouldn't be any problem at all if they'd only shut down projects that don't work for anyone.
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omnifischer 3y ago

it is good that they try and if it does not work shut it. At the same time people complain microsoft and others stagnate.

pavel_lishin 3y ago
I have two counterpoints: 1. "does not work" is wildly subjective. Google Reader was tremendously awesome. It "worked" for a lot of people. 2. Even when something doesn't work, they don't just shut it; they shut down one project, and start two competing ones with slightly overlapping feature sets. And now you get to choose which one you want to eventually migrate away from when they inevitably shut it down, as well, in favor of another set of competing internal projects. I think they shut things down when it doesn't work for Google, and that really doesn't give me an incentive to use any Google product. I'm still on gmail, and I'm betting that they won't dare shut that down - can you imagine? - but I absolutely will not invest any time or money into anything else they offer.
- toyg 3y ago
  > "does not work" is wildly subjective. Oh no, no no no. There is only one subject that matters at Google nowadays, and it is "how much does this thing help us sell ads...?" Mail? Great. Maps? Fabulous. Reader, aka a bunch of nerds talking to each other about geeky subjects? ...Nah.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Then as a user the only sensible action is to assume that nothing else will ever work again and proceed accordingly.
saghm 3y ago
Sure, but "shut it and then immediately try to make it again" is where it gets silly
rurp 3y ago
It's an app that plays podcasts, just like dozens of other apps out there. What exactly are they innovating on that has taken four total rewrites to get right? I've been using the same podcast app for probably 10+ years and have zero complaints. Not having to waste time migrating every few years is a better than any new feature Google is adding.
lxgr 3y ago
There wouldn't be any problem at all if they'd only shut down projects that don't work for anyone.

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