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Regular homebuyers would not pay extra thousands dollar for proper network project. Unfortunately if you want a decent network - then do it yourself.

bdavbdav 3y ago
DIY is really hard to do (neatly) once built. Especially in the UK where even a lot of internal walls are brick.
- ponector 3y ago
  Could be messy, but possible. After all, our modern apartments are built with reinforced concrete first and then wires are laid into the walls, floor, ceiling.
- rickydroll 3y ago
  Try in a 1930-40s house with vermiculite insulation. You need asbestos monitoring whenever you crack open a wall or a ceiling. Of course, the same can be said for and 1970-80-90's house with Chinese drywall. I'll never get 10G from my basement to 2ed floor office. I can run fiber along the chimney, but there is no way down that doesn't disturb the vermiculite insulation. I love old houses, but they present a whole different set of engineering challenges and DIY skills.
nostrademons 3y ago
I've heard the secret to getting contractors to do what you want is "Name a price, then do it." Basically for everything non-standard you want in the build, let them set a price, and then pay it. Oftentimes it'll be a few thousand for extra wiring or moving some outlet around, $25K to raise the roof in a room, something like that. But if they feel like they're getting an extra few grand out of you, many contractors are very willing to do it. It does mean that costs frequently balloon, but you should expect that when you do any form of home renovation, and just budget an extra $100K or so for it.
- thfuran 3y ago
  >and just budget an extra $100K or so for it. Yeah, I can't believe everyone isn't jumping right on that.
  - Fauntleroy 3y ago
    Lots of people out here not making the realization they need to be in the top ~20% of earners in their area if they want anything remotely nice in their life. Edit: probably higher than that in certain locations where homeownership is impossible
    - ChadNauseam 3y ago
      Only because "remotely nice" is defined relative to people in your neighborhood. What percent of people worldwide have their own bedroom with >10gbps WiFi and an outlet?
      - Nevermark 3y ago
        Not sure the context here is "worldwide". I don't see any comments about running AC to bedrooms. Also, "nice" things continually transition to being expected "basic" things. Especially when many people find the upgrades not too onerous. Other people feel natural frustration if happenstance makes the transition to a new norm more difficult for them. -- It took work to get good WiFi signals throughout my home this year. But an 80+ foot tree fell on the roof, centered directly over me in bed without killing me, during a tremendously dark and stormy night. So I won't complain about the signal resistant materials! Too much! In a closely adjecent "verse" I won't be complaining about anything.
        yurishimo 3y ago
        I think I remember reading another comment from you when this happened! Glad you’re still doing okay and got some nice upgrades in the process of fixing your home!

bdavbdav 3y ago

DIY is really hard to do (neatly) once built. Especially in the UK where even a lot of internal walls are brick.

ponector 3y ago
Could be messy, but possible. After all, our modern apartments are built with reinforced concrete first and then wires are laid into the walls, floor, ceiling.
rickydroll 3y ago
Try in a 1930-40s house with vermiculite insulation. You need asbestos monitoring whenever you crack open a wall or a ceiling. Of course, the same can be said for and 1970-80-90's house with Chinese drywall. I'll never get 10G from my basement to 2ed floor office. I can run fiber along the chimney, but there is no way down that doesn't disturb the vermiculite insulation. I love old houses, but they present a whole different set of engineering challenges and DIY skills.

nostrademons 3y ago

I've heard the secret to getting contractors to do what you want is "Name a price, then do it." Basically for everything non-standard you want in the build, let them set a price, and then pay it. Oftentimes it'll be a few thousand for extra wiring or moving some outlet around, $25K to raise the roof in a room, something like that. But if they feel like they're getting an extra few grand out of you, many contractors are very willing to do it. It does mean that costs frequently balloon, but you should expect that when you do any form of home renovation, and just budget an extra $100K or so for it.

thfuran 3y ago
>and just budget an extra $100K or so for it. Yeah, I can't believe everyone isn't jumping right on that.
- Fauntleroy 3y ago
  Lots of people out here not making the realization they need to be in the top ~20% of earners in their area if they want anything remotely nice in their life. Edit: probably higher than that in certain locations where homeownership is impossible
  - ChadNauseam 3y ago
    Only because "remotely nice" is defined relative to people in your neighborhood. What percent of people worldwide have their own bedroom with >10gbps WiFi and an outlet?
    - Nevermark 3y ago
      Not sure the context here is "worldwide". I don't see any comments about running AC to bedrooms. Also, "nice" things continually transition to being expected "basic" things. Especially when many people find the upgrades not too onerous. Other people feel natural frustration if happenstance makes the transition to a new norm more difficult for them. -- It took work to get good WiFi signals throughout my home this year. But an 80+ foot tree fell on the roof, centered directly over me in bed without killing me, during a tremendously dark and stormy night. So I won't complain about the signal resistant materials! Too much! In a closely adjecent "verse" I won't be complaining about anything.
      - yurishimo 3y ago
        I think I remember reading another comment from you when this happened! Glad you’re still doing okay and got some nice upgrades in the process of fixing your home!