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The old-style "tube" trains are all DC third rail IIRC, but the newer trainsets such as the Elizabeth and Thameslink are all overhead AC. So this would actually

The old-style "tube" trains are all DC third rail IIRC, but the newer trainsets such as the Elizabeth and Thameslink are all overhead AC. So this would actually be one of the few metro trains where it would be remotely safe to walk the tracks provided all the trains were stopped...

nicoburns 3y ago
The Elizabeth line also has an actual walkway for emergency (and presumably also maintenance) purposes.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  The newly built sections under central London, but lots of the Elizabeth Line is using older track.
stuaxo 3y ago
The line by paddington has long sections where the tube runs in parallel, in one of the pictures you can see a lot of people walking towards a tune depot and somebody is crossing one of the lines with a middle rail which is part of their DC electrification system (I assume this had been turned off - but this may have been turned off because they realised people were on the line, not the other way round).
quietbritishjim 3y ago
In this case, one quote I've seen is that a train's pantograph was "caught up" in the overhead wires and dragging them along, which makes it sound like some were now on the ground target than overhead.
NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
If not all trains are stopped, aren't they in danger of collision if they remain on the train?
- corobo 3y ago
  I'd really hope that modern signalling prevents trains entering signal blocks with other trains in (or can't confirm there's no train in) them. As in actively prevents, locking the brakes at the previous block, rather than allowing drivers to miss or ignore signals. We've had plenty of issues with this to learn from in the history of railways for it not to be a high priority. E: aye seems that way :) > In order to prevent a train from entering an occupied block, each signal has a mechanical ‘trainstop’ next to the track. This device applies the brakes of any train which tries to pass a stop signal. https://madeby.tfl.gov.uk/2019/07/24/behind-the-scenes-signalling/ https://madeby.tfl.gov.uk/2019/07/24/behind-the-scenes-signa...
  - bobthepanda 3y ago
    The issue is during evacuation, people may not have the sense to stick to the track their train is stuck on, and may spread out into a parallel track.
    - corobo 3y ago
      That is an issue for sure, but I'm responding to the possibility of a train hitting another where the passengers have opted to stay on the halted train
  - kevincox 3y ago
    The walking passengers may enter a block that their train has already cleared. So you can't really assume that wherever they walk will be locked.
    - corobo 3y ago
      The comment I'm responding to is concerned of the risks of staying on a halted train. No walkers in this hypothetical. That is for sure an issue, but not the issue I'm responding to
- Symbiote 3y ago
  No, not in the slightest.

nicoburns 3y ago

The Elizabeth line also has an actual walkway for emergency (and presumably also maintenance) purposes.

Symbiote 3y ago
The newly built sections under central London, but lots of the Elizabeth Line is using older track.

stuaxo 3y ago

The line by paddington has long sections where the tube runs in parallel, in one of the pictures you can see a lot of people walking towards a tune depot and somebody is crossing one of the lines with a middle rail which is part of their DC electrification system (I assume this had been turned off - but this may have been turned off because they realised people were on the line, not the other way round).

quietbritishjim 3y ago

In this case, one quote I've seen is that a train's pantograph was "caught up" in the overhead wires and dragging them along, which makes it sound like some were now on the ground target than overhead.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago

If not all trains are stopped, aren't they in danger of collision if they remain on the train?

corobo 3y ago
I'd really hope that modern signalling prevents trains entering signal blocks with other trains in (or can't confirm there's no train in) them. As in actively prevents, locking the brakes at the previous block, rather than allowing drivers to miss or ignore signals. We've had plenty of issues with this to learn from in the history of railways for it not to be a high priority. E: aye seems that way :) > In order to prevent a train from entering an occupied block, each signal has a mechanical ‘trainstop’ next to the track. This device applies the brakes of any train which tries to pass a stop signal. https://madeby.tfl.gov.uk/2019/07/24/behind-the-scenes-signalling/ https://madeby.tfl.gov.uk/2019/07/24/behind-the-scenes-signa...
- bobthepanda 3y ago
  The issue is during evacuation, people may not have the sense to stick to the track their train is stuck on, and may spread out into a parallel track.
  - corobo 3y ago
    That is an issue for sure, but I'm responding to the possibility of a train hitting another where the passengers have opted to stay on the halted train
- kevincox 3y ago
  The walking passengers may enter a block that their train has already cleared. So you can't really assume that wherever they walk will be locked.
  - corobo 3y ago
    The comment I'm responding to is concerned of the risks of staying on a halted train. No walkers in this hypothetical. That is for sure an issue, but not the issue I'm responding to
Symbiote 3y ago
No, not in the slightest.