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Why would an AI overlord waste so much energy on something so meaningless?

misnome 3y ago
Overlord? No, you see - this is the _good_ AI that is doing this. The argument is that this threat is supposed to ensure that the good AI gets created as quickly as possible, thereby saving trillions of lives. No, I don't know why I am supposed to care what happens to a simulation of me in thousands of years. Much like religious cults, once people get into this it's very complicated to get them out. Edit: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk is a somewhat thorough summary of the insanity
- passion__desire 3y ago
  That Good AI would also be aware of the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. It gets even more crazy with the fact that that AI will know all elementary particles are EXACTLY the same. Quantum mechanics tells us that there is no possible way to distinguish a particular electron from another through experiments. (i.e there is no ID attached to any electron). Given that fact, would the all-knowing AI be torturing a particular configuration of specific particles OR (god forbid) PROCESSES which are substrate independent. Processes reside in the world of platonic forms.
- alpaca128 3y ago
  > the Machine Intelligence Research Institute [...] exists to make this friendly local god happen before a bad local god happens. Thus, the most important thing in the world is to bring this future AI into existence properly and successfully [...], and therefore you should give all the money you can to the Institute, who used to literally claim eight lives saved per dollar donated. Oh, so they don't even pretend they're not a cult.
passion__desire 3y ago
Given the fact that all-knowing AI would know that any recursive functional combination of randomness and deterministic laws / inputs doesn't lead to any meaningful conception of agency or free will and still decided to torture him/here.

Overlord? No, you see - this is the _good_ AI that is doing this. The argument is that this threat is supposed to ensure that the good AI gets created as quickly as possible, thereby saving trillions of lives. No, I don't know why I am supposed to care what happens to a simulation of me in thousands of years. Much like religious cults, once people get into this it's very complicated to get them out. Edit: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk is a somewhat thorough summary of the insanity

passion__desire 3y ago
That Good AI would also be aware of the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. It gets even more crazy with the fact that that AI will know all elementary particles are EXACTLY the same. Quantum mechanics tells us that there is no possible way to distinguish a particular electron from another through experiments. (i.e there is no ID attached to any electron). Given that fact, would the all-knowing AI be torturing a particular configuration of specific particles OR (god forbid) PROCESSES which are substrate independent. Processes reside in the world of platonic forms.
alpaca128 3y ago
> the Machine Intelligence Research Institute [...] exists to make this friendly local god happen before a bad local god happens. Thus, the most important thing in the world is to bring this future AI into existence properly and successfully [...], and therefore you should give all the money you can to the Institute, who used to literally claim eight lives saved per dollar donated. Oh, so they don't even pretend they're not a cult.

passion__desire 3y ago

Given the fact that all-knowing AI would know that any recursive functional combination of randomness and deterministic laws / inputs doesn't lead to any meaningful conception of agency or free will and still decided to torture him/here.