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Of course! And I support anyone who talks with their wallet, but that's not what's going on here... If Bob has a personal problem with Musk, then let it be kno

Of course! And I support anyone who talks with their wallet, but that's not what's going on here... If Bob has a personal problem with Musk, then let it be know. I could totally understand that, especially after Musk's recent interviews. But hiding behind a virtue signalling flex when Disney are actively supporting platforms that are as bad or worse is straight up hypocrisy. Even if we ignore the child abuse and focus on antisemitism, it doesn't take long to find out how bad Facebook is: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58058428 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58058428 Anti-Semitic social posts 'not taken down' in 80% of cases - 2 August 2021 "Facebook was the worst performer, CCDH said, failing to act on 89% of posts." Similar articles can be found on The Guardian, NPR, and many others.

clouddrover 3y ago
> I support anyone who talks with their wallet, but that's not what's going on here That's exactly what's going on here.
- shark_laser 3y ago
  Yeah, he's voting with with his wallet... It's the justifications that I'm opposed to. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/disney-s-iger-takes-shots-at-woke-war-desantis-and-musk/ar-AA1kTatW https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/disney-s-iger-take... "By him taking the position that he took in quite a public manner, we just felt that the association with that position, and with Elon Musk, and X was not necessarily a positive one for us and we decided we would pull our advertising." This is in reference Musk's 'anti-Semitic' tweet. So instead of just voting with his wallet, Bob has turned it into a virtue flex, which would also be fine if they weren't actively supporting other platforms that are known to be far worse. (And that's ignoring Meta's issues with child abuse)
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    > So instead of just voting with his wallet, Bob has turned it into a virtue flex No. There's no need to flex anything. All he's done is distance Disney from the bad smell around Musk and Twitter. If that's all Bob Iger needs to do to make Disney look better (or at least avoid looking worse) then maybe Musk should have a think about getting himself under control.
    - shark_laser 3y ago
      "Lying isn't marketing. It's just lying." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38541436#38541565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38541436#38541565 Pretending to do the right thing whilst actively doing the exact opposite might make Disney look better to anyone not paying attention but it's not marketing, it's just lying.
      - clouddrover 3y ago
        Your whataboutism argument isn't going very well. Through his antics, his moronic public statements, and the changes he made to the platform, Musk created the conditions that resulted in Disney pulling its advertising from Twitter. The End. All that remains for Musk to do now is to grow up and take responsibility for this outcome. But, given that he has told his customers to "go fuck themselves", it seems unlikely that he will take responsibility any time soon.
        shark_laser 3y ago
        > Your whataboutism argument isn't going very well. Gotcha. One rule for me and another for thee. It says a lot about people when they'd prefer to believe a comfortable lie, than be told an uncomfortable truth. I never once defended Musk's idiocy, but you've made it clear that you have no problems with child abuse, anti-Semitism, or hypocrisy. Best of luck to ya. > The End.
        clouddrover 3y ago
        What on earth are you talking about? You're bounding off into the irrelevant tundra, desperately hoping that it is somehow relevant to Disney not advertising on Twitter. It isn't.
        shark_laser 3y ago
        lol, gotcha. Commenting on Disney paying money to an antisemetic company that distributes child abuse material is irrelevant in a thread about Disney not paying money to an allegedly antisemetic company. Sorry, I suppose it's another "whataboutism"...
  - Zigurd 3y ago
    Musk's antisemitic Tweet (no quotes, it was antisemitic) was also racist. He endorsed a discredited canard against Jews, namely: replacement theory. That's a completely baseless white supremacist claim that Jews are engineering demographic change against white people in America. Musk said it was the truth. How would one reinterpret that to doubt the antisemitism and racism in that? Punishing that kind of bigotry is no "flex." It is basic decency.

clouddrover 3y ago

> I support anyone who talks with their wallet, but that's not what's going on here That's exactly what's going on here.

shark_laser 3y ago
Yeah, he's voting with with his wallet... It's the justifications that I'm opposed to. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/disney-s-iger-takes-shots-at-woke-war-desantis-and-musk/ar-AA1kTatW https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/disney-s-iger-take... "By him taking the position that he took in quite a public manner, we just felt that the association with that position, and with Elon Musk, and X was not necessarily a positive one for us and we decided we would pull our advertising." This is in reference Musk's 'anti-Semitic' tweet. So instead of just voting with his wallet, Bob has turned it into a virtue flex, which would also be fine if they weren't actively supporting other platforms that are known to be far worse. (And that's ignoring Meta's issues with child abuse)
- clouddrover 3y ago
  > So instead of just voting with his wallet, Bob has turned it into a virtue flex No. There's no need to flex anything. All he's done is distance Disney from the bad smell around Musk and Twitter. If that's all Bob Iger needs to do to make Disney look better (or at least avoid looking worse) then maybe Musk should have a think about getting himself under control.
  - shark_laser 3y ago
    "Lying isn't marketing. It's just lying." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38541436#38541565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38541436#38541565 Pretending to do the right thing whilst actively doing the exact opposite might make Disney look better to anyone not paying attention but it's not marketing, it's just lying.
    - clouddrover 3y ago
      Your whataboutism argument isn't going very well. Through his antics, his moronic public statements, and the changes he made to the platform, Musk created the conditions that resulted in Disney pulling its advertising from Twitter. The End. All that remains for Musk to do now is to grow up and take responsibility for this outcome. But, given that he has told his customers to "go fuck themselves", it seems unlikely that he will take responsibility any time soon.
      - shark_laser 3y ago
        > Your whataboutism argument isn't going very well. Gotcha. One rule for me and another for thee. It says a lot about people when they'd prefer to believe a comfortable lie, than be told an uncomfortable truth. I never once defended Musk's idiocy, but you've made it clear that you have no problems with child abuse, anti-Semitism, or hypocrisy. Best of luck to ya. > The End.
        clouddrover 3y ago
        What on earth are you talking about? You're bounding off into the irrelevant tundra, desperately hoping that it is somehow relevant to Disney not advertising on Twitter. It isn't.
        shark_laser 3y ago
        lol, gotcha. Commenting on Disney paying money to an antisemetic company that distributes child abuse material is irrelevant in a thread about Disney not paying money to an allegedly antisemetic company. Sorry, I suppose it's another "whataboutism"...
- Zigurd 3y ago
  Musk's antisemitic Tweet (no quotes, it was antisemitic) was also racist. He endorsed a discredited canard against Jews, namely: replacement theory. That's a completely baseless white supremacist claim that Jews are engineering demographic change against white people in America. Musk said it was the truth. How would one reinterpret that to doubt the antisemitism and racism in that? Punishing that kind of bigotry is no "flex." It is basic decency.