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Which journalists has he banned from Twitter/X ?

by oska 3y ago

lawn 3y ago
Just look up the events surrounding ElonJet.
- oska 3y ago
  Doesn't answer my question. I would actually like to know if there have been any. I'm quite open to criticising things that he has actually done, and have made criticisms of him plenty of times. But I'm not aware of any journalists that he's kicked off twitter/X. The closest to such a scenario that I'm aware of is him (so far) not allowing Alex Jones back on, but he didn't actually kick him off.
  - lawn 3y ago
    It's not that hard to Google. https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-starts-banning-critical-journalists-from-twitter https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-start... > Twitter has suspended the accounts of several prominent reporters who cover Elon Musk, including Ryan Mac of The New York Times, CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan, The Washington Post’s Drew Harwell, The Intercept’s Micah Lee, and Mashable’s Matt Binder, Aaron Rupar, and Tony Webster.
    - oska 3y ago
      Thanks for that link. I wasn't aware that he suspended journalists at that time. However, I do note that they were only suspended and not banned. And this is consistent with what he has said on a number of occasions, that people might get 'timeouts' (in this case for doxing) but he's against permanent bans. Just checked two of the accounts (Ryan Mac, @RMac18 and Aaron Rupar, @atrupar) named in the article and they are active today. I would like to know if there are any journalists he has permanently banned. As used to happen quite often on twitter, pre-Musk acquisition.
      - operatingthetan 3y ago
        >I do note that they were only suspended and not banned. This distinction is meaningless until someone is un-suspended.
        oska 3y ago
        Certainly if you are suspended you should be told the time period the suspension will last for, yes.
        operatingthetan 3y ago
        Don't make assumptions.
      - lawn 3y ago
        Here's one that has been permanently banned: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-still-banning-journalists https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-st...
        oska 3y ago
        Ok, this particular case is interesting and certainly looks concerning. Checked his handle [1] and yeah, it's still "suspended" over 6 months later. And while it only says "suspended" there, according to this thread [2], the message he originally got was that he had been "permanently suspended", which does imply a ban. And is also somewhat disingenuous because a suspension should imply temporality. Appreciate you providing the link. Perhaps I've been living in a bit of a bubble because I hadn't heard of this. [1] https://twitter.com/dellcam https://twitter.com/dellcam [2] https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1648785112748662784 https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1648785112748662784

Which journalists has he banned from Twitter/X ?

by oska 3y ago

Which journalists has he banned from Twitter/X ?

lawn 3y ago

Just look up the events surrounding ElonJet.

oska 3y ago
Doesn't answer my question. I would actually like to know if there have been any. I'm quite open to criticising things that he has actually done, and have made criticisms of him plenty of times. But I'm not aware of any journalists that he's kicked off twitter/X. The closest to such a scenario that I'm aware of is him (so far) not allowing Alex Jones back on, but he didn't actually kick him off.
- lawn 3y ago
  It's not that hard to Google. https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-starts-banning-critical-journalists-from-twitter https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/15/23512004/elon-musk-start... > Twitter has suspended the accounts of several prominent reporters who cover Elon Musk, including Ryan Mac of The New York Times, CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan, The Washington Post’s Drew Harwell, The Intercept’s Micah Lee, and Mashable’s Matt Binder, Aaron Rupar, and Tony Webster.
  - oska 3y ago
    Thanks for that link. I wasn't aware that he suspended journalists at that time. However, I do note that they were only suspended and not banned. And this is consistent with what he has said on a number of occasions, that people might get 'timeouts' (in this case for doxing) but he's against permanent bans. Just checked two of the accounts (Ryan Mac, @RMac18 and Aaron Rupar, @atrupar) named in the article and they are active today. I would like to know if there are any journalists he has permanently banned. As used to happen quite often on twitter, pre-Musk acquisition.
    - operatingthetan 3y ago
      >I do note that they were only suspended and not banned. This distinction is meaningless until someone is un-suspended.
      - oska 3y ago
        Certainly if you are suspended you should be told the time period the suspension will last for, yes.
        operatingthetan 3y ago
        Don't make assumptions.
    - lawn 3y ago
      Here's one that has been permanently banned: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-still-banning-journalists https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/elon-musk-twitter-st...
      - oska 3y ago
        Ok, this particular case is interesting and certainly looks concerning. Checked his handle [1] and yeah, it's still "suspended" over 6 months later. And while it only says "suspended" there, according to this thread [2], the message he originally got was that he had been "permanently suspended", which does imply a ban. And is also somewhat disingenuous because a suspension should imply temporality. Appreciate you providing the link. Perhaps I've been living in a bit of a bubble because I hadn't heard of this. [1] https://twitter.com/dellcam https://twitter.com/dellcam [2] https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1648785112748662784 https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1648785112748662784