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No, the expectation is that the government can put up speed cameras everywhere and make a shit ton of money.
by ls612 3y ago
No, the expectation is that the government can put up speed cameras everywhere and make a shit ton of money.
- Nthringas 3y agoi'm pretty sure that's only a legit business model in the usa
- worg 3y agoNope that's a business model in Mexico too
- mynegation 3y agoOh let me tell you about a speed camera on Parkside drive in Toronto that makes city literal millions every year.
- askvictor 3y agoAustralia has entered the chat
- sva_ 3y agoThe 100k population German city I live in recently reported they made 2 million Euro in this year so far (using speed cameras alone.) That doesn't seem like nothing.
- jacquesm 3y ago2 million / year is 5500 euros / day or about 100 infractions. On a city of 100k I'd say they missed a couple ;)
- sva_ 3y agoA lot are actually missed by not getting a good photo and probably other reasons. I've seen the flashing light around 4 to 5 times already, but have only ever gotten 1 ticket (where they changed the speed from 50 to 30 and immediately put up a camera - bastards.)
- jacquesm 3y agoThey probably get great photos but the camera may be set to the actual limit whereas the fine only comes when you exceed that limit by a certain amount.
- twelve40 3y ago> i'm pretty sure that's only a legit business model in the usa lolwut? i haven't gotten a single camera-based ticket, ever - many decades of driving in the US - unlike say Italy where every time i drive (about once in 5 years) i seem to break some stupid minor rule and get a photo ticket
- Teever 3y agoWhy the cynical take? Do you really think that in a country with extensive rail and a bicycle culture as a national identity that the reason for reduced speed limits is a cash grab? Is it so alien to you to consider that perhaps the country is implementing these kinds of laws to reduce the harmful effects of automobiles with the ultimate end game being the extinction of car culture?
- ls612 3y agoBecause I see technology as a being used as a means to social control and authoritarian rule. Most HN commenters are perfectly willing to see this as well when it comes to DRM, remote attestation, secure boot, etc, but magically forget that when discussion of traffic and cars comes up.
- piva00 3y agoIt's not authoritarian rule and social control to limit the speed of death machines inside a dense city. I don't want fast cars in my city, I don't want the noise, the fatalities or injuries, nor the pollution. Cars are a privilege, you need a licence from the government to drive them, are you going to advocate for removing driver licencing as well? Because that's pretty much full government control over who can drive or not. Pretty authoritarian, no?
- Kim_Bruning 3y agoThe end goal is not the extinction of car culture. The end goal is to get everyone from A to B safely and swiftly, regardless of transport mode. Basically if you put Germans and Dutch people together, they'll argue which country has the best car infrastructure. The grass is greener on the other side. Dutch people say you can go faster on German roads, while Germans say that the dutch speed limits make traffic more smooth and logical. Either way, once you drive out to the highway you can theoretically lock the cruise control to 100 km/h [1] (including on intersections) until ~5-10 min from your destination.[2] That's not a bad country for cars! [1] Except eg. Amsterdam ring-road which is 80 km/h. Exception that proves the rule. [2] I did say theoretically. Roads ARE busy and you may need to tap the brakes sometimes. Though... in practice I'm willing to bet that on any given day some number of people actually manage to achieve this by accident. (outside rush hour and with a little luck)