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It sounds nuts that they reorganized the phone to increase the battery size from 3900mah to 4200mah. Also this phone is too expensive to be a practical device

It sounds nuts that they reorganized the phone to increase the battery size from 3900mah to 4200mah. Also this phone is too expensive to be a practical device rather than a statement. Someone please just make a straightforward phone powered by replaceable 18650s dammit. If it runs AOSP out of the box then great.

VoxPelli 3y ago
With a 7-10 year lifespan it’s only the initial cost that may be big, the cost over time is much less and the resell value once one upgrades also holds up much better over time
- whatevaa 3y ago
  I don't think this will hold resell value :) Fairphones aren't popular enough. You would have problems selling it in the first place.
  - VoxPelli 3y ago
    Well, any serious phone reseller / refurbished only sells phones that are still getting security updates: And this one will get that for a long time. It’s also going to be real easy for refurbishers to repair these, either by picking parts from other old ones or by buying replacement parts, hence even a slightly broken one may still be worth money.
mappu 3y ago
You're at least on the right post. The only example I could find of a cellphone using 18650 cells was a modded Fairphone - https://forum.fairphone.com/t/making-a-phone-that-would-use-a-18650-battery/31239/16 https://forum.fairphone.com/t/making-a-phone-that-would-use-...
- throwaway81523 3y ago
  People have apparently modded other phones for 18650 as well. I will have to look into it sometime.
sbierwagen 3y ago
An 18650 is twice the thickness of a Fairphone 5. The market for phones that big is small. Those people are probably just going to buy "ruggedized" phones with big lipo cells, like this: https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank 22000mAh battery. Giant ridiculous 1200 lumen flashlight. Weighs more than a pound. A quoted "hundred days" of standby time. Why have replaceable batteries if your phone can go three months without recharging?

VoxPelli 3y ago

With a 7-10 year lifespan it’s only the initial cost that may be big, the cost over time is much less and the resell value once one upgrades also holds up much better over time

whatevaa 3y ago
I don't think this will hold resell value :) Fairphones aren't popular enough. You would have problems selling it in the first place.
- VoxPelli 3y ago
  Well, any serious phone reseller / refurbished only sells phones that are still getting security updates: And this one will get that for a long time. It’s also going to be real easy for refurbishers to repair these, either by picking parts from other old ones or by buying replacement parts, hence even a slightly broken one may still be worth money.

mappu 3y ago

You're at least on the right post. The only example I could find of a cellphone using 18650 cells was a modded Fairphone - https://forum.fairphone.com/t/making-a-phone-that-would-use-a-18650-battery/31239/16 https://forum.fairphone.com/t/making-a-phone-that-would-use-...

throwaway81523 3y ago
People have apparently modded other phones for 18650 as well. I will have to look into it sometime.

sbierwagen 3y ago

An 18650 is twice the thickness of a Fairphone 5. The market for phones that big is small. Those people are probably just going to buy "ruggedized" phones with big lipo cells, like this: https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank 22000mAh battery. Giant ridiculous 1200 lumen flashlight. Weighs more than a pound. A quoted "hundred days" of standby time. Why have replaceable batteries if your phone can go three months without recharging?