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Somewhat related, in that involves the X-Files and hidden songs, the CD of X-Files related music had a "Track 0" that can be accessed by rewinding beyond 0:00 o

Somewhat related, in that involves the X-Files and hidden songs, the CD of X-Files related music had a "Track 0" that can be accessed by rewinding beyond 0:00 of track 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_in_the_Key_of_X:_Music_from_and_Inspired_by_the_X-Files https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_in_the_Key_of_X:_Music_f... > Producers used the Compact Disc's pregap, so a listener would have to actually manually rewind the first track a full nine minutes to hear two additional hidden tracks, "Time Jesum Transeuntum Et Non Riverentum" and a cover of The X-Files theme song, both performed by Nick Cave and Dirty Three.[20] This is hinted at in the album's liner booklet, which notes "Nick Cave and the Dirty Three would like you to know that "0" is also a number".[21] The use of these hidden tracks has been described as "just the sort of surprise one might have suspected from a show that deals in unexplainable mysteries".[22] Not all CD or DVD players will allow the album to be "rewound" back to these tracks as this violates Red Book standards.[23]

sickcodebruh 3y ago
I remember finding that secret track based on that "0 is also a number" and being blown away. IIRC there's at least one other secret song in another track's pre-roll.
mrexroad 3y ago
I want to believe! Thanks for that, I wasn’t aware of this (it was my sister’s CD back in the day). Things like this are a nice reminder of when I believed in more things, when stuff was done for passion rather than profit and being a nerd meant something other than being dismissed as a techbro or whatever people say now. Ok, taking off my rose-tinted-nostalgia glasses now. Things are always fantastic and things are always broken, only depends on where (and why) you focus.
Yodel0914 3y ago
Loved that track, and the adventure of finding it. I'm not sure how "lost" it is, but I always have trouble finding the Foo Fighters cover of Down In The Park off that album.
jgtrosh 3y ago
Another amazing track 0, which is described in the (extensively long) album title as having been “lost”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_of_the_Remixes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_of_the_Remixes
mackman 3y ago
Whoa, I had no idea. This is one of my favorite albums. I have the FLAC rip of the CD on my phone. Does anybody know how I could actually rip that zero track? iTunes didn’t do it.
- alibosworth 3y ago
  I haven’t used it for years, but EAC was the gold standard for ripping. This thread mentions a few other options as well: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/best-way-to-rip-pre-gap-tracks/5250 https://community.metabrainz.org/t/best-way-to-rip-pre-gap-t...
- r721 3y ago
  The keyword to search is "HTOA" ("Hidden Track One Audio"): https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=HTOA https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=HTOA I think you also need to find CD/DVD drive which can extract HTOA, not all drives can do it. There were lists (one of them is linked in Hydrogenaudio article), but I think those are severely outdated now.
dsXLII 3y ago
I really thought this thread would be about this. I recently tracked down a copy of the CD, specifically to see if I could export these pre-gap tracks. (No luck so far, but I've only tried modern stuff; I probably need to look for a more retro drive and ripping software.)
- mavhc 3y ago
  https://github.com/thomas-mc-work/most-possible-unattended-rip https://github.com/thomas-mc-work/most-possible-unattended-r... Step 1: find the best cd drive, set offset Step 2: rip drives, uses musicbrainz to find metadata Step 3: it checks the hash it's ripped with AccurateCD You can alter the script to not abort on unreadable tracks if you wish
- r721 3y ago
  There were lists of drives which can extract HTOA (on Hydrogenaudio or dBpoweramp forums), but I couldn't find one now. I have a vague memory that Lite-On had quite a few capable models. UPD Here's a list: https://www.daefeatures.co.uk/search?htoa=Yes https://www.daefeatures.co.uk/search?htoa=Yes

sickcodebruh 3y ago

I remember finding that secret track based on that "0 is also a number" and being blown away. IIRC there's at least one other secret song in another track's pre-roll.

mrexroad 3y ago

I want to believe! Thanks for that, I wasn’t aware of this (it was my sister’s CD back in the day). Things like this are a nice reminder of when I believed in more things, when stuff was done for passion rather than profit and being a nerd meant something other than being dismissed as a techbro or whatever people say now. Ok, taking off my rose-tinted-nostalgia glasses now. Things are always fantastic and things are always broken, only depends on where (and why) you focus.

Yodel0914 3y ago

Loved that track, and the adventure of finding it. I'm not sure how "lost" it is, but I always have trouble finding the Foo Fighters cover of Down In The Park off that album.

jgtrosh 3y ago

Another amazing track 0, which is described in the (extensively long) album title as having been “lost”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_of_the_Remixes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_of_the_Remixes

mackman 3y ago

Whoa, I had no idea. This is one of my favorite albums. I have the FLAC rip of the CD on my phone. Does anybody know how I could actually rip that zero track? iTunes didn’t do it.

alibosworth 3y ago
I haven’t used it for years, but EAC was the gold standard for ripping. This thread mentions a few other options as well: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/best-way-to-rip-pre-gap-tracks/5250 https://community.metabrainz.org/t/best-way-to-rip-pre-gap-t...
r721 3y ago
The keyword to search is "HTOA" ("Hidden Track One Audio"): https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=HTOA https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=HTOA I think you also need to find CD/DVD drive which can extract HTOA, not all drives can do it. There were lists (one of them is linked in Hydrogenaudio article), but I think those are severely outdated now.

dsXLII 3y ago

I really thought this thread would be about this. I recently tracked down a copy of the CD, specifically to see if I could export these pre-gap tracks. (No luck so far, but I've only tried modern stuff; I probably need to look for a more retro drive and ripping software.)

mavhc 3y ago
https://github.com/thomas-mc-work/most-possible-unattended-rip https://github.com/thomas-mc-work/most-possible-unattended-r... Step 1: find the best cd drive, set offset Step 2: rip drives, uses musicbrainz to find metadata Step 3: it checks the hash it's ripped with AccurateCD You can alter the script to not abort on unreadable tracks if you wish
r721 3y ago
There were lists of drives which can extract HTOA (on Hydrogenaudio or dBpoweramp forums), but I couldn't find one now. I have a vague memory that Lite-On had quite a few capable models. UPD Here's a list: https://www.daefeatures.co.uk/search?htoa=Yes https://www.daefeatures.co.uk/search?htoa=Yes