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What impact has she made? What has she built? Did she actually make AI safer? If so, how did she do it? Are current AI models safer because of her? It sounds l

What impact has she made? What has she built? Did she actually make AI safer? If so, how did she do it? Are current AI models safer because of her? It sounds like someone who talked a lot but didn’t actually create anything, change anything, or make anyone’s lives better. Happy to revise my perspective if someone can provide any concrete data on her impact.

magpi3 3y ago
> What impact has she made? What has she built? Did she actually make AI safer? She was on the board that fired Sam Altman, that had the courage to fire Sam Altman, presumably (according to the article at least) because he is a liar and she and three other board members did not trust him to be loyal to the non-profit's mission of working to keep AI safe.
- WJW 3y ago
  That particular impact was undone in a single weekend. She may be an absolute rockstar otherwise but "firing Altman" is not impact when he is still in control of OpenAI.
- PeterisP 3y ago
  The parent post question presumably was about the impact she has had as an academic or researcher (as "the leading academic on the issue of AI safety"), where the political actions on some board are not relevant.
storf45 3y ago
from the article, the paragraph right before it explained how she got on the board: "In 2019, she spent nine months in Beijing studying its AI ecosystem. When she returned, Toner helped establish a research organization at Georgetown University, called the Center for Security and Emerging Technology, where she continues to work."
- PeterisP 3y ago
  It's interesting that on her LinkedIn profile she instead states that in Beijing she spent those 9 months in "intensive Mandarin Chinese language training" at a Chinese language program in Tsinghua University, not studying its AI ecosystem.
  - Tryk 3y ago
    Credential inflation is how all these Nepo babies seemingly outpace anyone else.

magpi3 3y ago

> What impact has she made? What has she built? Did she actually make AI safer? She was on the board that fired Sam Altman, that had the courage to fire Sam Altman, presumably (according to the article at least) because he is a liar and she and three other board members did not trust him to be loyal to the non-profit's mission of working to keep AI safe.

WJW 3y ago
That particular impact was undone in a single weekend. She may be an absolute rockstar otherwise but "firing Altman" is not impact when he is still in control of OpenAI.
PeterisP 3y ago
The parent post question presumably was about the impact she has had as an academic or researcher (as "the leading academic on the issue of AI safety"), where the political actions on some board are not relevant.

storf45 3y ago

from the article, the paragraph right before it explained how she got on the board: "In 2019, she spent nine months in Beijing studying its AI ecosystem. When she returned, Toner helped establish a research organization at Georgetown University, called the Center for Security and Emerging Technology, where she continues to work."

PeterisP 3y ago
It's interesting that on her LinkedIn profile she instead states that in Beijing she spent those 9 months in "intensive Mandarin Chinese language training" at a Chinese language program in Tsinghua University, not studying its AI ecosystem.
- Tryk 3y ago
  Credential inflation is how all these Nepo babies seemingly outpace anyone else.