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IMHO, today, Google takes the cake for slowest. Meta is still probably the most agile, and Amazon is super hit or miss (so most variance) Idk where Microsoft

IMHO, today, Google takes the cake for slowest. Meta is still probably the most agile, and Amazon is super hit or miss (so most variance) Idk where Microsoft would fit in that hierarchy, like Amazon it's kind of hit or miss but with less variance and extrema. From what I've seen and heard, both Gaming and Azure are pretty darn competent these days from an engineering and product perspective. Not perfect of course, but nothing is.

a_wild_dandan 3y ago
Huh, I've heard several people refer to Microsoft as a "retirement home." Maybe that's just an ageism thing.
- hughesjj 3y ago
  I've heard the same about Google. It's definitely not untrue at MSFT today either. My hot take is that 2018 Google was late 90s MSFT more or less (juggernaut resting on their laurels and cashing in on their monopoly). Today, they're more like mid 2000s MSFT. Here's hoping 'tomorrow' they'll have a similar comeback.
VirusNewbie 3y ago
Do you think Microsoft would have a competitive foundational model if not for OpenAI? Cause Google and Meta seem like they’re top of the pack there, with AWS at the very least releasing some.
- vitorgrs 3y ago
  Microsoft already had competitive models, especially Megatron-Turing. They were even using on Bing Chat before... I'm pretty sure they still use their model on Bing Chat today (Balanced mode). It was a competitive model for the time, it was made in 2021 if I recall in cooperation with Nvidia. The largest model at the time (and still remains one of the largest models ever made). https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/using-deepspeed-and-megatron-to-train-megatron-turing-nlg-530b-the-worlds-largest-and-most-powerful-generative-language-model/ https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/using-deepspeed-and-megatr... The thing here is that OpenAI managed to create GPT4 - that no one matched yet.
  - hughesjj 3y ago
    Yup, I took remember taydolf swiftler from way back when. Hey even if it didn't pan out, it still shows they'vd been trying and innovating for a while Similar for Cortana. Now, I don't like any of those products, but, still, effort is seen.

a_wild_dandan 3y ago

Huh, I've heard several people refer to Microsoft as a "retirement home." Maybe that's just an ageism thing.

hughesjj 3y ago
I've heard the same about Google. It's definitely not untrue at MSFT today either. My hot take is that 2018 Google was late 90s MSFT more or less (juggernaut resting on their laurels and cashing in on their monopoly). Today, they're more like mid 2000s MSFT. Here's hoping 'tomorrow' they'll have a similar comeback.

VirusNewbie 3y ago

Do you think Microsoft would have a competitive foundational model if not for OpenAI? Cause Google and Meta seem like they’re top of the pack there, with AWS at the very least releasing some.

vitorgrs 3y ago
Microsoft already had competitive models, especially Megatron-Turing. They were even using on Bing Chat before... I'm pretty sure they still use their model on Bing Chat today (Balanced mode). It was a competitive model for the time, it was made in 2021 if I recall in cooperation with Nvidia. The largest model at the time (and still remains one of the largest models ever made). https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/using-deepspeed-and-megatron-to-train-megatron-turing-nlg-530b-the-worlds-largest-and-most-powerful-generative-language-model/ https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/using-deepspeed-and-megatr... The thing here is that OpenAI managed to create GPT4 - that no one matched yet.
- hughesjj 3y ago
  Yup, I took remember taydolf swiftler from way back when. Hey even if it didn't pan out, it still shows they'vd been trying and innovating for a while Similar for Cortana. Now, I don't like any of those products, but, still, effort is seen.