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Would you reeeaaally? If you really wanted a phone like this, you'd just get the tiny USB-C to Jack adapter. How much of a chance that you'd find some other de

by izacus 3y ago

Would you reeeaaally? If you really wanted a phone like this, you'd just get the tiny USB-C to Jack adapter. How much of a chance that you'd find some other detail that's not ok if it had a jack?

q0uaur 3y ago
not the other guy, but... any advice how to find a decent usb-c to audio jack dongle? i've ordered a cheap one and it's absolutely unusable, horrible sound quality and constant noticeable static. not feeling like gambling on another one.
- beAbU 3y ago
  ... don't buy a cheap one?
- LeoPanthera 3y ago
  Apple's USB-C to headphone dongle works on Android, I believe, and is regularly reviewed to have the same audio quality as comparably expensive DACs. It's $9
  - russelg 3y ago
    It doesn't receive enough power on Android for some reason, you'll find the max volume it can push out much lower than other dongles. It also doesn't support volume buttons on Android. Can't fault the sound quality though.
  - NewJazz 3y ago
    That adapter is so flimsy. I don't think it would last repeated use.
    - LeoPanthera 3y ago
      It’s been around for so long, and the Lightning version for even longer, that if it was a serious problem we would know by now.
      - NewJazz 3y ago
        That is implying anyone actually uses them day to day instead of just springing for airpods. Edit: also https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/b7vjo9/anything_more_durable_than_apples_lightning_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/b7vjo9/anything_mor...
        LeoPanthera 3y ago
        A person literally using it on a trampoline is not a good example.
        NewJazz 3y ago
        Nice job moving those goal posts. What about jogging? Not a good example either?
  - crashmat 3y ago
    It does sound good, but not very durable. I got one recently because i got a phone without a headphone jack foolishly thinking I'd just buy an adapter and it broke the second time I used it, just making clicking noises.
- mhitza 3y ago
  Safe to assume you're in the US? In EU, or another country with reasonable return policy, I'd buy such a dongle in an electronics shops, try it on the spot and refund if it's non comformant.
  - sentientslug 3y ago
    I have no idea what this comment means because this is exactly how it works in the US as well.
    - mhitza 3y ago
      Maybe I phrased myself wrong. The actual law in EU countries is that you can return products "no questions asked" within 14 days of purchase. In this context non comformant might mean either doesn't work, or I don't like it. If that's the case in the US, I've learned something new. Generally, based on comments, there seem to be fewer consumer protection laws over there.
  - q0uaur 3y ago
    europe, but i ordered it online and shipping it back just isnt worth the effort. i guess it's a decent idea, but physical stores around here just add such a massive markup, sometimes triple the price....
- NewJazz 3y ago
  Meizu makes a good one IMO. Sturdy cable and good sound quality.
toast0 3y ago
I've had phones where I needed a USB-C to jack adapter, and I'm not buying another one. I don't often use headphones with my phone, but 95% of the time, I'm on a plane and I'd like to stay charged while I watch my movie. It's also really easy to leave the dongle on the plane, so that's annoying too.
- reiichiroh 3y ago
  Don’t you still have the adapter?
  - toast0 3y ago
    I accidentally left an adapter on a plane, so no I don't still have that adapter. I do have another one (from my spouse's phone), but my current phone doesn't need an adapter, because it has a 3.5mm jack.
- asadotzler 3y ago
  plenty of split dongles that do power and audio, right?
astowaway 3y ago
I didn't buy a fairphone 4/5 having previously bought a fp3 that got broken mostly beyond repair. I didnt buy the updated version as it didnt have a headphone jack. I opted for a used phone instead. It flies in the face of claiming to care for repairability and sustainability. Wireless earbuds (maybe including the ones they sell) I by and large dont have replaceable batteries. That isnt sustainable. If my USBC jack breaks from wear and tear being in my pocket with a cable attached to them, I no longer have a working phone and need to buy a part to fix it, if the headphone jack breaks, I can live without headphones and still have a functional phone. If the selling point is sustainability, they miss the mark by creating extraneous rubbish, even if its not direct
ben-schaaf 3y ago
Yes I would. I have a fairphone 3 and when it gets too old or damaged I'd like to buy something newer and a headphone jack is a deal breaker.
lmm 3y ago
I consistently bought Galaxies until they got rid of the headphone jack, and switched to an Xperia when they did. Like, yes, there are other features that I pay attention to too, but I've empirically demonstrated a willingness to switch brands and pay more for the sake of a headphone jack. It does matter.
toastercat 3y ago
1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone world, 3.5mm audio jacks are still very common and not obsolete 5. Bluetooth is cumbersome on many phones and headphones, introduces latency, and affects audio quality I wouldn't buy a phone just because it had a headphone jack, but it's definitely a draw for me when a phone does (+ a removable battery or expandable storage, but HN is probably gonna tell me those things are obsolete as well).
- scheeseman486 3y ago
  1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the option, it's not like half-decent dongles are particularly expensive.
  - cthulhus_crocs 3y ago
    1. waste money on good adapter when jack worked fine 2. connect it to the end of my headphones and leave it there 3. remove it so I can connect same headphones to laptop 4. lose adapter repeat
    - scheeseman486 3y ago
      It doesn't work anymore because no one cares about audio jacks on their devices, so no manufacturer puts them in. Apple may have started it, but every other manufacturer eventually followed as not enough people complained. Doesn't your laptop have USB ports?

by izacus 3y ago

Would you reeeaaally? If you really wanted a phone like this, you'd just get the tiny USB-C to Jack adapter. How much of a chance that you'd find some other detail that's not ok if it had a jack?

q0uaur 3y ago

not the other guy, but... any advice how to find a decent usb-c to audio jack dongle? i've ordered a cheap one and it's absolutely unusable, horrible sound quality and constant noticeable static. not feeling like gambling on another one.

beAbU 3y ago
... don't buy a cheap one?
LeoPanthera 3y ago
Apple's USB-C to headphone dongle works on Android, I believe, and is regularly reviewed to have the same audio quality as comparably expensive DACs. It's $9
- russelg 3y ago
  It doesn't receive enough power on Android for some reason, you'll find the max volume it can push out much lower than other dongles. It also doesn't support volume buttons on Android. Can't fault the sound quality though.
- NewJazz 3y ago
  That adapter is so flimsy. I don't think it would last repeated use.
  - LeoPanthera 3y ago
    It’s been around for so long, and the Lightning version for even longer, that if it was a serious problem we would know by now.
    - NewJazz 3y ago
      That is implying anyone actually uses them day to day instead of just springing for airpods. Edit: also https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/b7vjo9/anything_more_durable_than_apples_lightning_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/b7vjo9/anything_mor...
      - LeoPanthera 3y ago
        A person literally using it on a trampoline is not a good example.
        NewJazz 3y ago
        Nice job moving those goal posts. What about jogging? Not a good example either?
- crashmat 3y ago
  It does sound good, but not very durable. I got one recently because i got a phone without a headphone jack foolishly thinking I'd just buy an adapter and it broke the second time I used it, just making clicking noises.
mhitza 3y ago
Safe to assume you're in the US? In EU, or another country with reasonable return policy, I'd buy such a dongle in an electronics shops, try it on the spot and refund if it's non comformant.
- sentientslug 3y ago
  I have no idea what this comment means because this is exactly how it works in the US as well.
  - mhitza 3y ago
    Maybe I phrased myself wrong. The actual law in EU countries is that you can return products "no questions asked" within 14 days of purchase. In this context non comformant might mean either doesn't work, or I don't like it. If that's the case in the US, I've learned something new. Generally, based on comments, there seem to be fewer consumer protection laws over there.
- q0uaur 3y ago
  europe, but i ordered it online and shipping it back just isnt worth the effort. i guess it's a decent idea, but physical stores around here just add such a massive markup, sometimes triple the price....
NewJazz 3y ago
Meizu makes a good one IMO. Sturdy cable and good sound quality.

toast0 3y ago

I've had phones where I needed a USB-C to jack adapter, and I'm not buying another one. I don't often use headphones with my phone, but 95% of the time, I'm on a plane and I'd like to stay charged while I watch my movie. It's also really easy to leave the dongle on the plane, so that's annoying too.

reiichiroh 3y ago
Don’t you still have the adapter?
- toast0 3y ago
  I accidentally left an adapter on a plane, so no I don't still have that adapter. I do have another one (from my spouse's phone), but my current phone doesn't need an adapter, because it has a 3.5mm jack.
asadotzler 3y ago
plenty of split dongles that do power and audio, right?

astowaway 3y ago

I didn't buy a fairphone 4/5 having previously bought a fp3 that got broken mostly beyond repair. I didnt buy the updated version as it didnt have a headphone jack. I opted for a used phone instead. It flies in the face of claiming to care for repairability and sustainability. Wireless earbuds (maybe including the ones they sell) I by and large dont have replaceable batteries. That isnt sustainable. If my USBC jack breaks from wear and tear being in my pocket with a cable attached to them, I no longer have a working phone and need to buy a part to fix it, if the headphone jack breaks, I can live without headphones and still have a functional phone. If the selling point is sustainability, they miss the mark by creating extraneous rubbish, even if its not direct

ben-schaaf 3y ago

Yes I would. I have a fairphone 3 and when it gets too old or damaged I'd like to buy something newer and a headphone jack is a deal breaker.

lmm 3y ago

I consistently bought Galaxies until they got rid of the headphone jack, and switched to an Xperia when they did. Like, yes, there are other features that I pay attention to too, but I've empirically demonstrated a willingness to switch brands and pay more for the sake of a headphone jack. It does matter.

toastercat 3y ago

1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone world, 3.5mm audio jacks are still very common and not obsolete 5. Bluetooth is cumbersome on many phones and headphones, introduces latency, and affects audio quality I wouldn't buy a phone just because it had a headphone jack, but it's definitely a draw for me when a phone does (+ a removable battery or expandable storage, but HN is probably gonna tell me those things are obsolete as well).

scheeseman486 3y ago
1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the option, it's not like half-decent dongles are particularly expensive.
- cthulhus_crocs 3y ago
  1. waste money on good adapter when jack worked fine 2. connect it to the end of my headphones and leave it there 3. remove it so I can connect same headphones to laptop 4. lose adapter repeat
  - scheeseman486 3y ago
    It doesn't work anymore because no one cares about audio jacks on their devices, so no manufacturer puts them in. Apple may have started it, but every other manufacturer eventually followed as not enough people complained. Doesn't your laptop have USB ports?