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IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

by baz00 3y ago

carstenhag 3y ago
What are you doing with it? Never had a waterproof phone, never needed one. I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents
- baz00 3y ago
  I live in the UK. It rains here. A lot. And I need to take calls.
  - sgift 3y ago
    I think you are good with IP55 in that case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code > Water projected by a nozzle (6.3 mm (0.25 in)) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects. > Test duration: 1 minute per square meter for at least 3 minutes > Water volume: 12.5 litres per minute Pressure: 30 kPa (4.4 psi) at distance of 3 meters (9.8 ft)
    - baz00 3y ago
      It classifies as submersion when the case is saturated. Also with these things you never buy at the line. You get something that's a couple of ratings higher than what you expect. That allows some margin for error and uncertainty.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    Britain generally has light to moderate rain, especially in the places it rains "a lot".
- nicoburns 3y ago
  > I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents That's true, but some people have more accidents than others! If you're the sort of person who drops their phone in water every couple of months then a waterproof phone ends up being a huge cost saving.
- biomcgary 3y ago
  My wife's phone died in a bucket of goat milk. All those calcium ions are great conductors.
  - baz00 3y ago
    RIP. That's an interesting phone death. I actually killed a Nokia 6303 because the alarm went off and it vibrated off the window sill into a large pan of potatoes I'd just boiled. You just never know what is going to happen.
- Daz1 3y ago
  Cool, I've never needed a repairable phone. Ever. Never had anything break on any iPhone I've ever owned. I have accidentally immersed it in water several times though, after which it was totally fine. That makes the Fairphone useless from my perspective.
stevehawk 3y ago
i think it's safe to say that you're not the average phone user.
- sowbug 3y ago
  I've heard that in Japan, it's common to use phones while showering. My N=1 observation is that this would be unusual in the US.
  - calamari4065 3y ago
    .....but why? Actually, I probably don't want to know.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - Daz1 3y ago
    Not really use. They play music or YouTube etc. while showering.
TrueGeek 3y ago
I'm surprised you're getting downvoted. The iPhone has been IP67 since iPhone 7 (so 7 years now). I figured more people appreciated this. I assume most Androids are the same. It's nice to be able to go kayaking and not worry about having to have a waterproof case. Mine once spent 10 hours in a back cycling jersey pocket where it rained the entire time and it was perfectly fine.
- baz00 3y ago
  Yes exactly that. My iPhone 13 Pro has been up mountains, across glaciers and through deserts (no shit it actually has) and it looks and works like the day I bought it. But the time it really got hammered was when it was pissing it down in the middle of nowhere in the UK when I was waiting for a train that would never come and I had to try and organise a taxi in an unfamiliar place. That would have killed the Fairphone 5 dead. It was soaked. Everything was soaked. Edit: I also have a Pixel 7a which is the same.
- sgift 3y ago
  There's obviously a trade-off between able to open the case without having to glue it back together - which is kind of needed for good repairability - and having IP67. It don't think it's even possible tbh. If you have screws, you'll have gaps and since IP67 has to be completely dust proof (not only dust protected as IP5) and water proof for 30 minutes in 1m water it's kind of a silly ask for anything repairable.
  - adolph 3y ago
    > without having to glue it back together It's not like using a squirt-bottle. Just buy the seal with the repair part, example below. https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-x-display-assembly-adhesive https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-x-display-assembly-ad...
    - Ruthalas 3y ago
      In my opinion, getting it safely /off/ is the challenge that makes glued-on front panels a downside.
KoftaBob 3y ago
Are you a fisherman or something?

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

by baz00 3y ago

IP55. Nope. I'd kill that in 30 seconds. My phone case looks like a fish bowl on some days.

What are you doing with it? Never had a waterproof phone, never needed one. I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents

baz00 3y ago
I live in the UK. It rains here. A lot. And I need to take calls.
- sgift 3y ago
  I think you are good with IP55 in that case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code > Water projected by a nozzle (6.3 mm (0.25 in)) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects. > Test duration: 1 minute per square meter for at least 3 minutes > Water volume: 12.5 litres per minute Pressure: 30 kPa (4.4 psi) at distance of 3 meters (9.8 ft)
  - baz00 3y ago
    It classifies as submersion when the case is saturated. Also with these things you never buy at the line. You get something that's a couple of ratings higher than what you expect. That allows some margin for error and uncertainty.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  Britain generally has light to moderate rain, especially in the places it rains "a lot".
nicoburns 3y ago
> I guess very few people benefit from it on a day to day basis. Most value is just there in case of accidents That's true, but some people have more accidents than others! If you're the sort of person who drops their phone in water every couple of months then a waterproof phone ends up being a huge cost saving.
biomcgary 3y ago
My wife's phone died in a bucket of goat milk. All those calcium ions are great conductors.
- baz00 3y ago
  RIP. That's an interesting phone death. I actually killed a Nokia 6303 because the alarm went off and it vibrated off the window sill into a large pan of potatoes I'd just boiled. You just never know what is going to happen.
Daz1 3y ago
Cool, I've never needed a repairable phone. Ever. Never had anything break on any iPhone I've ever owned. I have accidentally immersed it in water several times though, after which it was totally fine. That makes the Fairphone useless from my perspective.

stevehawk 3y ago

i think it's safe to say that you're not the average phone user.

sowbug 3y ago
I've heard that in Japan, it's common to use phones while showering. My N=1 observation is that this would be unusual in the US.
- calamari4065 3y ago
  .....but why? Actually, I probably don't want to know.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- Daz1 3y ago
  Not really use. They play music or YouTube etc. while showering.

TrueGeek 3y ago

I'm surprised you're getting downvoted. The iPhone has been IP67 since iPhone 7 (so 7 years now). I figured more people appreciated this. I assume most Androids are the same. It's nice to be able to go kayaking and not worry about having to have a waterproof case. Mine once spent 10 hours in a back cycling jersey pocket where it rained the entire time and it was perfectly fine.

baz00 3y ago
Yes exactly that. My iPhone 13 Pro has been up mountains, across glaciers and through deserts (no shit it actually has) and it looks and works like the day I bought it. But the time it really got hammered was when it was pissing it down in the middle of nowhere in the UK when I was waiting for a train that would never come and I had to try and organise a taxi in an unfamiliar place. That would have killed the Fairphone 5 dead. It was soaked. Everything was soaked. Edit: I also have a Pixel 7a which is the same.
sgift 3y ago
There's obviously a trade-off between able to open the case without having to glue it back together - which is kind of needed for good repairability - and having IP67. It don't think it's even possible tbh. If you have screws, you'll have gaps and since IP67 has to be completely dust proof (not only dust protected as IP5) and water proof for 30 minutes in 1m water it's kind of a silly ask for anything repairable.
- adolph 3y ago
  > without having to glue it back together It's not like using a squirt-bottle. Just buy the seal with the repair part, example below. https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-x-display-assembly-adhesive https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-x-display-assembly-ad...
  - Ruthalas 3y ago
    In my opinion, getting it safely /off/ is the challenge that makes glued-on front panels a downside.

KoftaBob 3y ago

Are you a fisherman or something?