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How does crap like this get published? Not a shred of evidence is given for its assertions, and they sound pretty preposterous. Nobody actually wanted to go to

How does crap like this get published? Not a shred of evidence is given for its assertions, and they sound pretty preposterous. Nobody actually wanted to go to Microsoft, and they didn't even think Altman was that great as a CEO. So why did they all sign the letter threatening to quit? Mysterious unspecified "pressure". Why did Microsoft claim it was willing to hire the OpenAI team at their current compensation levels, pissing off their own employees, if it really wasn't? Umm, no reason.

ghaff 3y ago
>So why did they all sign the letter threatening to quit? I probably wouldn't in an employment situation where it could come back to bite me. But lots of people sign, virtually or otherwise, petitions in the heat of the moment because emotions or it's just the path of least resistance. And "at current compensation levels" wasn't a contractual promise and would probably have had plenty of strings attached.
mschuster91 3y ago
> How does crap like this get published? That is easy to answer: BI belongs to the infamous German media conglomerate Axel Springer [1], hosting one of Europe's most vile, disgusting and scandal-ridden [2][3] tabloids called "BILD" and its barely veiled sister publication "WELT". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider [2] https://www.swr.de/swr2/wissen/70-jahre-bild-zeitung-zwischen-boulevard-und-hetze-swr2-wissen-2022-06-24-100.html https://www.swr.de/swr2/wissen/70-jahre-bild-zeitung-zwische... [3] https://de.statista.com/infografik/2588/publikationen-mit-den-meisten-ruegen-durch-den-deutschen-presserat/ https://de.statista.com/infografik/2588/publikationen-mit-de...
- sgift 3y ago
  Lol, really? BI is Axel Springer .. wow. And I always wondered why I felt iffy about their articles. That makes it clear. Into the "ignore this garbage" list they go.
gwern 3y ago
> and they didn't even think Altman was that great as a CEO. There are plenty of people who think that. Even the OA executives apparently weren't nearly as enthused with Altman as all those social-media hearts might lead one to assume. See the Time article yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38550240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38550240 specifically The board expected pressure from investors and media. But they misjudged the scale of the blowback from within the company, in part because they had reason to believe the executive team would respond differently, according to two people familiar with the board’s thinking, who say the board’s move to oust Altman was informed by senior OpenAI leaders, who had approached them with a variety of concerns about Altman’s behavior and its effect on the company’s culture.

ghaff 3y ago

>So why did they all sign the letter threatening to quit? I probably wouldn't in an employment situation where it could come back to bite me. But lots of people sign, virtually or otherwise, petitions in the heat of the moment because emotions or it's just the path of least resistance. And "at current compensation levels" wasn't a contractual promise and would probably have had plenty of strings attached.

mschuster91 3y ago

> How does crap like this get published? That is easy to answer: BI belongs to the infamous German media conglomerate Axel Springer [1], hosting one of Europe's most vile, disgusting and scandal-ridden [2][3] tabloids called "BILD" and its barely veiled sister publication "WELT". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider [2] https://www.swr.de/swr2/wissen/70-jahre-bild-zeitung-zwischen-boulevard-und-hetze-swr2-wissen-2022-06-24-100.html https://www.swr.de/swr2/wissen/70-jahre-bild-zeitung-zwische... [3] https://de.statista.com/infografik/2588/publikationen-mit-den-meisten-ruegen-durch-den-deutschen-presserat/ https://de.statista.com/infografik/2588/publikationen-mit-de...

sgift 3y ago
Lol, really? BI is Axel Springer .. wow. And I always wondered why I felt iffy about their articles. That makes it clear. Into the "ignore this garbage" list they go.

gwern 3y ago

> and they didn't even think Altman was that great as a CEO. There are plenty of people who think that. Even the OA executives apparently weren't nearly as enthused with Altman as all those social-media hearts might lead one to assume. See the Time article yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38550240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38550240 specifically The board expected pressure from investors and media. But they misjudged the scale of the blowback from within the company, in part because they had reason to believe the executive team would respond differently, according to two people familiar with the board’s thinking, who say the board’s move to oust Altman was informed by senior OpenAI leaders, who had approached them with a variety of concerns about Altman’s behavior and its effect on the company’s culture.