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> In exchange the large employers force every employee to sign up for union membership. Sometimes the company itself signs the employee to the union, without an
by lawn 3y ago
> In exchange the large employers force every employee to sign up for union membership. Sometimes the company itself signs the employee to the union, without any consent from the individual.
This is not the case in Sweden.
Maybe in the US?
- carlosjobim 3y agoI know for a matter of fact that it is the case in Sweden with some employers. They'll sign you up for the union without your consent and without informing you. Then the union in their turn will sign you up with insurance companies and other third parties without consent of information. Just a bill suddenly arriving in your mail that you have to pay.
- lawn 3y agoNever heard of that and that's not legal.
- carlosjobim 3y agoIt's perfectly legal, and you can find information about it on the websites of the unions.
- lawn 3y agoYou'll have to link to how they mention its fine for the employer to force sign you without your consent, and to sign you up for expensive insurance again without your consent.
- carlosjobim 3y agoYou could just have found the information yourself, it's not difficult Anyway, here's the link: https://www.sjofolk.se/nyheter/2022/medlem-automatiskt/ https://www.sjofolk.se/nyheter/2022/medlem-automatiskt/ Now you have the truth right in front of you. Use a translator if you don't understand it. I'd like for you to apologize for slandering me here in the comments and repeatedly calling me a liar. Will you do that, or will you just down vote and move on, like a hacker?
- jacquesm 3y agoNo, you should apologize because you clearly didn't read the article. It's just the difference between opt-in and opt-out and you can simply opt-out and anybody that is subject to these arrangements is aware of them. But then you also don't benefit from the union in times of strikes and such. With the very high fraction of employers that sign up for these programs it's pretty common to automatically enroll them in the union for that segment and usually - but probably not always - the HR department will ask you when they onboard you if you want to join the union or not.
- carlosjobim 3y agoOpt-in and opt-out? Somebody unilaterally "opts" you into a union, a home insurance contract and in the past "opted" you into being a paying member of a political party. That is extraordinary. Edit: Apologies for confusing you with the other poster.
- jacquesm 3y agoYou are doing your level best to make it seem like something is malicious when it clearly isn't. That's on you, not on the OP.
- carlosjobim 3y agoCome on, that playbook is ancient by now. Deny facts and call people liars, then when irrefutable evidence is shown say "Oh, but it's a good thing!". I just stated the truth, and if you think it's fine or even great that this happens, then sure. But why deny that it happens then? Why is that still in the playbook? If people think it's great, then say so. We're in the information age, anybody can look up stuff easily.
- jacquesm 3y agoI don't know why you keep digging, but it is getting a bit tedious. You've had multiple people correct you, you persist in your rabid anti-union posts and purposefully mis-interpret the available evidence. I'm not sure why you do this but I guess you're welcome to it.
- othorns 3y agoSource or it did not happen. That sounds extremely illegal, no one can be forced to sign a contract. Not to mention it would violate GDPR and several other laws. This sounds like myth that gets passed around or something you misunderstood.
- occz 3y agoComplete fabrication without any basis in reality.
- lawn 3y agoJust read the other comments of this account. Just making up anti-union statements all over the place.
- carlosjobim 3y agoI gave a link in a comment above, where the union spells out crystal clear exactly what I said.