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> If union membership is really the way of life in Sweden, is there anything preventing the government from a legislative solution? Just mandate collective agre
by masklinn 3y ago
> If union membership is really the way of life in Sweden, is there anything preventing the government from a legislative solution? Just mandate collective agreements?
The entire point of the german / Nordic union model is that by avoiding legislative action they can be more nimble and reactive to changes. Companies and unions don’t want legislation, and the governments are perfectly happy to let them handle things like adults.
That however only works when everyone plays ball.
- eddtries 3y ago> plays ball Which is the case for 99% of companies. It’s only American ones internationally expanding who don’t realise other economies operate differently that get stung with this.
- wil421 3y agoWhy does everyone complain like it is an American issue? It’s an Elon issue, he hates unions and does it very publicly. For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members.
- eddtries 3y agoBecause the previous examples of companies trying to avoid collective agreements have been American (notably Toys'R'Us and McDonalds)
- masklinn 3y agoDidn't Amazon and Walmart also try it out in Germany?
- masklinn 3y ago> Why does everyone complain like it is an American issue? Because it largely is. > For decades, Ford and others have factories in Europe and have union members. These were handled very differently. For the most part those were independent subsidiaries, under the same brand but playing with their own set of rules. They commonly had different lineups entirely, for instance the Ford Focus was created in cooperation by the british (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Britain) and German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany) teams of Ford of Europe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Europe), and while the Focus was designed as an international car, it is the direct descendent of Ford of Europe's first passenger car the Escort (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(Europe)), which itself directly descends from Ford of Britain's Anglia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Anglia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Anglia).
- turquoisevar 3y agoNot sure what the difference in products has to do with how the company is governed. Ford of Europe is a direct subsidiary of Ford Motor Company, and they both have the same CEO and Executive Chairman. It’s hardly a shock to most in Europe that many American corporations (whether by virtue of a subsidiary or not) attempt to bring their American sensibilities to the European labor market.