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The Texas Chain Saw Massacre actually is good though. I watched it quite recently and was surprised how good the cinematography, soundtrack, performances etc we

by Joeboy 3y ago

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre actually is good though. I watched it quite recently and was surprised how good the cinematography, soundtrack, performances etc were. Admittedly good in a cheap and gnarly way that suited the subject matter, not in a technically perfect way. I think maybe the polarizing nature is that it's "good" at hitting a particular tone, or providing a particular flavour of experience. But it's not a flavour everybody wants or approves of. Edit: It's true though that there's a market for horror movies that are not good. In fact AIUI it's about the only genre where there's any market at all at the low budget end. Maybe gangster films.

dfxm12 3y ago
It's true though that there's a market for horror movies that are not good. In fact AIUI it's about the only genre where there's any market at all at the low budget end. I disagree with this on both fronts. First, budget has nothing to do with it. See the success of Clerks or Super Troopers. Sundance is around the corner. There's going to be a lot of hype around a couple of drama and comedy films shot on a small budget. There is every year... I also disagree that people enjoy horror movies that are "not good". "Not good" is incredibly subjective, so I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I think you're referring to people like me, who watch movies like Jack Frost (not the one with Michael Keaton), but that is because I am legitimately entertained by them, not because they are "not good" by some measure.
- Joeboy 3y ago
  > There's going to be a lot of hype around a couple of drama and comedy films shot on a small budget. There is every year... I'm talking about like $500k and under. Tangerine would be a great example of a drama film that made a splash at Sundance on a $100k budget. But, there are many films made on that kind of budget and few of them turn a profit. Tangerine's from 2015, Clerks is from 1994, Super Troopers was 2001 (also well above the budget level I'm talking about). The plucky microbudget hits are notable exceptions, not the norm. I wasn't familiar with Jack Frost, I watched a couple of clips on Youtube and yeah, that probably is the sort of thing I mean tbh. It does look entertaining, but my point is if a movie in another genre had comparable production standards, it's much less likely it would've found an audience. The "so bad it's good" market is much more of a thing in horror than elsewhere, to the point people do it deliberately (eg. The Asylum). This isn't meant to be a dismissal of horror or horror fans at all, lots of great film makers have arrived via low budget horror. It's great there's still a genre where self-funded films aren't entirely a money pit.

by Joeboy 3y ago

dfxm12 3y ago

It's true though that there's a market for horror movies that are not good. In fact AIUI it's about the only genre where there's any market at all at the low budget end. I disagree with this on both fronts. First, budget has nothing to do with it. See the success of Clerks or Super Troopers. Sundance is around the corner. There's going to be a lot of hype around a couple of drama and comedy films shot on a small budget. There is every year... I also disagree that people enjoy horror movies that are "not good". "Not good" is incredibly subjective, so I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I think you're referring to people like me, who watch movies like Jack Frost (not the one with Michael Keaton), but that is because I am legitimately entertained by them, not because they are "not good" by some measure.

Joeboy 3y ago
> There's going to be a lot of hype around a couple of drama and comedy films shot on a small budget. There is every year... I'm talking about like $500k and under. Tangerine would be a great example of a drama film that made a splash at Sundance on a $100k budget. But, there are many films made on that kind of budget and few of them turn a profit. Tangerine's from 2015, Clerks is from 1994, Super Troopers was 2001 (also well above the budget level I'm talking about). The plucky microbudget hits are notable exceptions, not the norm. I wasn't familiar with Jack Frost, I watched a couple of clips on Youtube and yeah, that probably is the sort of thing I mean tbh. It does look entertaining, but my point is if a movie in another genre had comparable production standards, it's much less likely it would've found an audience. The "so bad it's good" market is much more of a thing in horror than elsewhere, to the point people do it deliberately (eg. The Asylum). This isn't meant to be a dismissal of horror or horror fans at all, lots of great film makers have arrived via low budget horror. It's great there's still a genre where self-funded films aren't entirely a money pit.