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AMD needs to launch drivers, not chips. Who’s going to develop ML models on a card that can’t connect to a popular ML model? I look at their financial performa
by FredPret 3y ago
AMD needs to launch drivers, not chips. Who’s going to develop ML models on a card that can’t connect to a popular ML model?
I look at their financial performance and it’s staggering how they’ve missed the boat - and this is during a huge boom on gaming, crypto, and AI.
Compare:
https://valustox.com/AMD https://valustox.com/AMD
VS
https://valustox.com/NVDA https://valustox.com/NVDA
- machinekob 3y agoThey are not only missed AI boom, they are also seems to be overpriced by a huge margin compared to Intel or even NVDA.
- visarga 3y agoThat's not such a big concern, LLMs run on all things today. It won't be that hard to make them work on AMD. Before 2020 we had much more architectural diversity.
- FredPret 3y agoThe last time I tried getting Tensorflow / Pytorch to work on my good (and cheap) AMD card, I literally ended up just buying an Nvidia card. I’m just one guy but my experience carries over to subsequent business decisions made by me, and there are many like me.
- Workaccount2 3y agoI'll throw my hat in the ring, I didn't buy an nvidia card, I simply gave up on trying to get it working.
- FredPret 3y agoNvidia drivers on Linux aren’t a walk in the park either, but at least there’s a way to do it.
- dharma1 3y agothey've had a long time to get ML working as well as with CUDA and CuDNN, mostly failed attempts so far. How close are they?
- qaq 3y agoThat is the confusing part say you need to hire 100 people at 1 mil. per year comp to get drivers to a good state. Thats 1/3 of their quarterly profit but would prob double the revenue in a few years.
- rafaelmn 3y agoFrom what I've heard they aren't offering competitive salaries, so introducing people at insane comps would probably destroy existing teams(if there was no salary bumps to match)/budgets (if there was). Doubt you can do much with new hires in 1 year in such environment, by the time you start seeing results it's probably too late to capitalize on this bubble. More likely, they wait to see how the AI HW startups shake up and then acquire the ones that have anything worth paying for.
- xchip 3y agoI heard the same too (speaking for a friend)
- logicchains 3y ago>From what I've heard they aren't offering competitive salaries Seems like a common thing in hardware companies, they chronically underpay, which for some reason hardware/electrical engineers seem to accept, but that makes them a last-choice for competent software engineers, who have much better-paying options.
- Workaccount2 3y agoWhats insane is that AMD has been known for it's shit drivers for over a decade now...and nothing has happened to address this. Like surely everyone internally knows it, all the execs know it, the board knows it, investors know it...but somehow it has never been addressed. At this point it's almost like it has to be intentional, like some perceived tradeoff ingrained in the culture that generates shit software.
- logicchains 3y ago>At this point it's almost like it has to be intentional, like some perceived tradeoff ingrained in the culture that generates shit software. They're underpaying their hardware engineers, and if they wanted to hire good software engineers they'd need to pay more, which would cause their hardware engineers to demand better pay too.
- FredPret 3y agoThe price of underpaying their employees like this can be seen very clearly in their revenue graph.
- bigbillheck 3y ago> AMD needs to.... https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2023-10-10-amd-to-acquire-open-source-ai-software-expert-nod-.html https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2023-10-10-am...