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In a somewhat amusing turn of events, it appears Meta has taken a page out of Microsoft's book on how to create a labyrinthine login experience. I ventured int

by guytv 3y ago

In a somewhat amusing turn of events, it appears Meta has taken a page out of Microsoft's book on how to create a labyrinthine login experience. I ventured into ai.meta.com, ready to log in with my trusty Facebook account. Lo and behold, after complying, I was informed that a Meta account was still not in my digital arsenal. So, I crafted one (cue the bewildered 'WTF?'). But wait, there's a twist – turns out it's not available in my region. Kudos to Microsoft for setting such a high bar in UX; it seems their legacy lives on in unexpected places."

dustingetz 3y ago
conways law
- wslh 3y ago
  Always great to read its Wikipedia page [1]. I find it specially annoying when governments just copy their bureaucratic procedures into an app or the web and there is not contextual information. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_law?wprov=sfti1# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_law?wprov=sfti1#
  - tutfbhuf 3y ago
    What does '?wprov=sfti1#' mean at the end of Wikipedia URLs? I have seen that quite frequently these days.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
    - fancy_pantser 3y ago
      Analytics: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance
    - barbarr 3y ago
      It's a parameter for tracking link shares. In this case, sfti1 means sharing a fact as text on iOS. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance
      - esafak 3y ago
        At least it's not personally identifiable.
whimsicalism 3y ago
If your region is the EU, you have your regulators to blame - their AI regs are rapidly becoming more onerous.
- mandmandam 3y ago
  If your argument is that EU regulators need to be more like America's, boy, did you pick the wrong crowd to proselytize. People here are actually clued in to the dangers of big data.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - messe 3y ago
    Honestly it can go either way here on HN. There’s a strong libertarian bias here that’ll jump at any chance to criticise what they see as “stifling innovation”.
    - toolz 3y ago
      Well I mean that's the logical conclusion to what these regulations achieve. Don't get me wrong, I don't claim to know when it's worthwhile and when it isn't, but these regulations force companies pushing the envelope with new tech to slow down and do things differently. The intention is always good*, the outcome sometimes isn't. One doesn't have to affiliate with any political party to see this. *Charitably I think we can all agree there's likely someone with good intentions behind every regulation. I do understand that the whole or even the majority of intention behind some regulations may not be good.
      - messe 3y ago
        I don’t disagree, and I probably shouldn’t have put “stifling innovation” in quotes, as you’re right: that is the goal here. My criticism is more levied at those who treat the fact that regulations can increase the cost of doing business as inherently bad without stopping to consider that profits may not be the be all and end all.
talldatethrow 3y ago
I'm on android. It asked me if I wanted to use FB, instagram or email. I chose Instagram. That redirected to Facebook anyway. Then facebook redirected to saying it needed to use my VR headset login (whatever that junk was called I haven't used since week 1 buying it). I said oook. It then said do I want to proceed via combining with Facebook or Not Combining. I canceled out.
- nomel 3y ago
  > then said do I want to proceed via combining with Facebook or Not Combining. This is what many many people asked for: a way to use meta stuff without a Facebook account. It’s giving you a choice to separate them.
  - ycombinatrix 3y ago
    People only asked for it because they took it away in the first place. I was using Oculus fine without any Facebook crap for years.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    They should make that more obvious and clear. And not make me make the choice while trying a totally new product. They never asked when I log into Facebook. Never asked when I log into Instagram. About to try a demo of a new product doesn't seem like the right time to ask me about an account logistics question for a device I haven't used for a year. Also, that concept makes sense for sure. But I had clicked log in with Instagram. Then facebook. If I wanted something separate for this demo, I'd have clicked email.
filterfiber 3y ago
My favorite with microsoft was just a year or two ago (not sure about now) - there was something like a 63 character limit for the login password. Obviously they didn't tell me this, and of course they allowed me to set my password to it without complaining. From why I could tell they just truncated it with no warning. Setting it below 60 characters worked no problem.

by guytv 3y ago

dustingetz 3y ago

conways law

wslh 3y ago
Always great to read its Wikipedia page [1]. I find it specially annoying when governments just copy their bureaucratic procedures into an app or the web and there is not contextual information. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_law?wprov=sfti1# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_law?wprov=sfti1#
- tutfbhuf 3y ago
  What does '?wprov=sfti1#' mean at the end of Wikipedia URLs? I have seen that quite frequently these days.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - fancy_pantser 3y ago
    Analytics: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance
  - barbarr 3y ago
    It's a parameter for tracking link shares. In this case, sfti1 means sharing a fact as text on iOS. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance
    - esafak 3y ago
      At least it's not personally identifiable.

whimsicalism 3y ago

If your region is the EU, you have your regulators to blame - their AI regs are rapidly becoming more onerous.

mandmandam 3y ago
If your argument is that EU regulators need to be more like America's, boy, did you pick the wrong crowd to proselytize. People here are actually clued in to the dangers of big data.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- messe 3y ago
  Honestly it can go either way here on HN. There’s a strong libertarian bias here that’ll jump at any chance to criticise what they see as “stifling innovation”.
  - toolz 3y ago
    Well I mean that's the logical conclusion to what these regulations achieve. Don't get me wrong, I don't claim to know when it's worthwhile and when it isn't, but these regulations force companies pushing the envelope with new tech to slow down and do things differently. The intention is always good*, the outcome sometimes isn't. One doesn't have to affiliate with any political party to see this. *Charitably I think we can all agree there's likely someone with good intentions behind every regulation. I do understand that the whole or even the majority of intention behind some regulations may not be good.
    - messe 3y ago
      I don’t disagree, and I probably shouldn’t have put “stifling innovation” in quotes, as you’re right: that is the goal here. My criticism is more levied at those who treat the fact that regulations can increase the cost of doing business as inherently bad without stopping to consider that profits may not be the be all and end all.

talldatethrow 3y ago

I'm on android. It asked me if I wanted to use FB, instagram or email. I chose Instagram. That redirected to Facebook anyway. Then facebook redirected to saying it needed to use my VR headset login (whatever that junk was called I haven't used since week 1 buying it). I said oook. It then said do I want to proceed via combining with Facebook or Not Combining. I canceled out.

nomel 3y ago
> then said do I want to proceed via combining with Facebook or Not Combining. This is what many many people asked for: a way to use meta stuff without a Facebook account. It’s giving you a choice to separate them.
- ycombinatrix 3y ago
  People only asked for it because they took it away in the first place. I was using Oculus fine without any Facebook crap for years.
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  They should make that more obvious and clear. And not make me make the choice while trying a totally new product. They never asked when I log into Facebook. Never asked when I log into Instagram. About to try a demo of a new product doesn't seem like the right time to ask me about an account logistics question for a device I haven't used for a year. Also, that concept makes sense for sure. But I had clicked log in with Instagram. Then facebook. If I wanted something separate for this demo, I'd have clicked email.

filterfiber 3y ago

My favorite with microsoft was just a year or two ago (not sure about now) - there was something like a 63 character limit for the login password. Obviously they didn't tell me this, and of course they allowed me to set my password to it without complaining. From why I could tell they just truncated it with no warning. Setting it below 60 characters worked no problem.