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US retail lobbyists retract key claim on 'organized' retail crime
- jeffbee 3y ago[flagged]
- toomuchtodo 3y agoThese are corporate lies, not leo lies (in this situation). They were using this narrative to mask their poor fundamentals. The retail version of "extend and pretend."
- jeffbee 3y agoThe lobbying organization is a bunch of ex-cops and lobbyists. CLEAR is a 5013c registered to the house of a prison guard industry lobbyist who was an LEO. The whole thing has been orchestrated by cops for propaganda purposes. Whether the retailers were in on it or duped is immaterial.
- jjulius 3y agoI'm pretty "fuck the police" myself, but what if a cop tells you the sky is blue?
- aifooh7Keew6xoo 3y agoThen it must be raining
- yardie 3y agoTrick question, they would never do that because fuck you, that's why.
- Kye 3y agoThen the sky is surveillance drones.
- zingababba 3y agoMmmmhm, but why are they lying?
- stronglikedan 3y agoThey're not always lying, but everything they say is always an attempt to get you to incriminate yourself for something.
- Kye 3y agoCops have two modes: lying and speaking authoritatively from ignorance of the actual law.
- yardie 3y agoRetailers treat their customers like criminals and are surprised most of them don't come back! News at 11. BTW, the convenience store near me has a massive shoplifting problem. The owners keep it understaffed. The thieves know the only working employee is stuck at the register so, in full view of cameras, customers, and the employee, will say hello to the cashier, take what they want, warm up some food, and walk right out! The only thing the cashier can do is mark the time and items down for the owner. Everyone knows what the solution is, yet the owners are unwilling to do it.
- hotpotamus 3y ago> Everyone knows what the solution is Well, maybe everyone except me, because I don't know. What are you going to do, tackle the dude walking out with a $3 burrito? What if you break their arm and it ends up costing $50K in hospital bills? I'm sure you'll say the establishment isn't responsible which makes sense, but someone is going to eat that bill and I doubt it's the guy who couldn't afford food. And what if the thief has a gun that they're constitutionally allowed to carry? That can get real messy, real fast. I think things are the way they are for a reason.
- aifooh7Keew6xoo 3y agoWitnessing a theft of food I'd be sooner to resort to violence on behalf of the starving man than the capitalist
- cafard 3y agoYou've never known middle-class shoplifters? Admittedly, by their 20s become risk-averse. But in high school and college, they might not be.
- johngladtj 3y agoDon't be surprised when those capitalists you hate stop providing you the goods and services you want at prices you find affordable then.
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- toss1 3y agoSo, the inventory losses aren't half from organized crime, it's less. Does that mean that the majority of the losses is actually just 1) disorganized criminals (i.e., just randos who don't expect to be caught), or 2) insider/employee theft, or 3) not actual losses, but accounting subterfuge to cover actual poor performance? TFA gives no indication, and it seems it'd make a difference in what is the appropriate response. And yes, the locking many products behind cages certainly makes it a lot less convenient the few times I find it useful to shop in physical stores. Seems it'll just drive even harder the preference for online shopping.
- local_crmdgeon 3y agoDon't believe your lying eyes - CVS WANTS to lock up all of their stuff. There's no theft issue, there's no war in Ba Sing Se.
- tcmart14 3y agoUpvote for the Avatar reference.
- specialist 3y agoIIRC, the alarming spike in retail (property) crime in San Fran was traced back to a single store location, due to Target corporate changing their reporting standards. Of course, this outlier wasn't accounted for in the industry association's report. In addition to the self-citations this OC noted. The "Organized Retail Crime" Panic [2023-10-21], If Books Could Kill podcast https://www.buzzsprout.com/2040953/13846837-the-organized-retail-crime-panic-teaser https://www.buzzsprout.com/2040953/13846837-the-organized-re...