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Well, I'd stop paying for Netflix well before I'd stop paying for Spotify because Spotify has much closer to the "everything"of that particular form of entertai

Well, I'd stop paying for Netflix well before I'd stop paying for Spotify because Spotify has much closer to the "everything"of that particular form of entertainment than Netflix does, and new albums and songs are relatively instantly available on the service. For whatever reason, the ability to arrange music licensing to allow for an aggregator of everything is much easier than for movie and TV show licensing.

trey-jones 3y ago
Yep, super easy, just pay the content creators in beans and peanuts.
ghaff 3y ago
Music licensing is pretty much centralized and standardized for historical reasons. So streaming music services pretty much have "everything" (reasonably mainstream) and are essentially commodities aside from device support, UIs, playlists, etc.
midasuni 3y ago
The problem I have with Spotify is the money I pay doesn’t go to the artists I potentially to. If I pay £15 a month and listen to 15 different artists 50 times each I would expect each artist to get £1 minus costs, so say 50p. But they don’t, they instead get a fraction of that.
- Moldoteck 3y ago
  there are other apps that are more fair than spotify but less convenient
  - y7 3y ago
    Which ones? And why are they less convenient? I like Spotify and use it a lot, but I think their UI is somewhat okay at best.
    - Moldoteck 3y ago
      I think tidal is a little bit better, but I was referring more to the apps where you buy music/songs and revenue goes directly to the author. Less convenient in the AI/recommendation sense, for me Spoty was the best. I use yt music to save some bucks but spoti was superior
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  I do get that, and don't like it. I have a deal with myself, that I'm a few months behind on actually, to spend at least $10 a month (the equivalent of my old Google music sub) on Bandcamp - and on primarily Australian music, to support local in my minimal way.
- Anthony-G 3y ago
  That’s my biggest problem with Spotify. When I was younger I’d always have music playing in the background but now I only listen to music intentionally – mostly when I’m walking in town or on public transport. I usually download a select number of albums in advance and listen to complete albums at a time – just as I did with other media. Ideally, my monthly Spotify spend would be divided among the few artists that I actually listen to. Instead, the (small) share of revenue that the artist gets is their fractional share of what everyone else is listening to (most likely as background† music, selected by a Spotify algorithm or playlist), i.e., it’s not proportional to the amount of times that I listen to the artist. † I’d often hear good music being played in a small (usually independent, not a chain) store or café where the workers have some control over what they’re listening to in their work-place. In the past, I used to discover new music and have some good conversations by asking staff in a shop what is the music they’re playing on the sound system. For the past few years, that hasn’t worked so well: the staff stare blankly, are surprised at the question and/or show no interest in what’s being fed to them by Spotify.
- senko 3y ago
  The problem you have is with the record labels, not Spotify. Spotify takes the blame, but the record labels take the lion's share.
davkan 3y ago
Spotify lacks when you venture into niche older genres. I was doing a deep dive into ska and rocksteady and the content on Spotify was not at all complete. A quick visit to the successor of what.cd and I’ve got access to more accurately cataloged releases than I could listen to. There’s no such thing as casual music discovery though with piracy. It’s a bit like visiting the largest record store ever built. You’ve gotta thumb through the albums and talk to the other nerds.

trey-jones 3y ago

Yep, super easy, just pay the content creators in beans and peanuts.

ghaff 3y ago

Music licensing is pretty much centralized and standardized for historical reasons. So streaming music services pretty much have "everything" (reasonably mainstream) and are essentially commodities aside from device support, UIs, playlists, etc.

midasuni 3y ago

The problem I have with Spotify is the money I pay doesn’t go to the artists I potentially to. If I pay £15 a month and listen to 15 different artists 50 times each I would expect each artist to get £1 minus costs, so say 50p. But they don’t, they instead get a fraction of that.

Moldoteck 3y ago
there are other apps that are more fair than spotify but less convenient
- y7 3y ago
  Which ones? And why are they less convenient? I like Spotify and use it a lot, but I think their UI is somewhat okay at best.
  - Moldoteck 3y ago
    I think tidal is a little bit better, but I was referring more to the apps where you buy music/songs and revenue goes directly to the author. Less convenient in the AI/recommendation sense, for me Spoty was the best. I use yt music to save some bucks but spoti was superior
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
I do get that, and don't like it. I have a deal with myself, that I'm a few months behind on actually, to spend at least $10 a month (the equivalent of my old Google music sub) on Bandcamp - and on primarily Australian music, to support local in my minimal way.
Anthony-G 3y ago
That’s my biggest problem with Spotify. When I was younger I’d always have music playing in the background but now I only listen to music intentionally – mostly when I’m walking in town or on public transport. I usually download a select number of albums in advance and listen to complete albums at a time – just as I did with other media. Ideally, my monthly Spotify spend would be divided among the few artists that I actually listen to. Instead, the (small) share of revenue that the artist gets is their fractional share of what everyone else is listening to (most likely as background† music, selected by a Spotify algorithm or playlist), i.e., it’s not proportional to the amount of times that I listen to the artist. † I’d often hear good music being played in a small (usually independent, not a chain) store or café where the workers have some control over what they’re listening to in their work-place. In the past, I used to discover new music and have some good conversations by asking staff in a shop what is the music they’re playing on the sound system. For the past few years, that hasn’t worked so well: the staff stare blankly, are surprised at the question and/or show no interest in what’s being fed to them by Spotify.
senko 3y ago
The problem you have is with the record labels, not Spotify. Spotify takes the blame, but the record labels take the lion's share.

davkan 3y ago

Spotify lacks when you venture into niche older genres. I was doing a deep dive into ska and rocksteady and the content on Spotify was not at all complete. A quick visit to the successor of what.cd and I’ve got access to more accurately cataloged releases than I could listen to. There’s no such thing as casual music discovery though with piracy. It’s a bit like visiting the largest record store ever built. You’ve gotta thumb through the albums and talk to the other nerds.