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> that was just mostly regular farmers before the first Nakba but slowly became radicalised Regular farmers who were asked by their Arab "brothers" to step asi

> that was just mostly regular farmers before the first Nakba but slowly became radicalised Regular farmers who were asked by their Arab "brothers" to step aside while they eradicate the Jews. Surprised Pikachu face when that plan didn't work out and the result was that the farmers couldn't go back. The same "brothers" now tell them to not leave the Gaza strip (and enforce it by blocking the one non-Israel-controlled exit), and to rather die as meat shield for Hamas. Priorities, priorities...

kossTKR 3y ago
I've been to Israel and follow the conflict pretty extensively. The "Meat shield" disinfo is in the grand scheme of things nothing but a gross excuse for the extreme casualties, just like the 40 dead babies thing, or "cave complexes below every hospital" or other campaign PR like "we are doing it because of WMD's in iraq". It's excuses to dominate. Most has been debunked if you follow independent media. But it seems most here doesn't. US media is highly pro war and for some reason peddles these lies over and over again like Iraq, Afghanistan or so many other wars. Most people were just regular farmers. That you think a whole region were bloodthirsty barbarians really says more about the racism of american media than anything else. Most people are regular families just living everywhere on earth throughout all times. That's the beauty of humans, but war campaigns vilifies people so we can dominate them to "protect" us.
- pgeorgi 3y ago
  > The "Meat shield" disinfo https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2023/10/12/Gazans-must-remain-on-their-land-Egypt-s-Sisi https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2023/10/12/Ga... cites al-Sisi: > On Thursday, he said that Egypt was already hosting “nine million guests, as I call them, from many countries who came to Egypt for security and safety.” > But the case of Gazans “is different”, he said, because their displacement would mean “the elimination of the (Palestinian) cause.” That's "stay there, no matter what", al-Sisi could unilaterally open the Gazan border, after all. In plain English: Meat shield. > Most people were just regular farmers. That you think a whole region were bloodthirsty barbarians really says more about the racism of american media than anything else. First, I don't consume american media. Second, most people in Mandatory Palestine were regular farmers, alright. The armies of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq were anything but.

kossTKR 3y ago

I've been to Israel and follow the conflict pretty extensively. The "Meat shield" disinfo is in the grand scheme of things nothing but a gross excuse for the extreme casualties, just like the 40 dead babies thing, or "cave complexes below every hospital" or other campaign PR like "we are doing it because of WMD's in iraq". It's excuses to dominate. Most has been debunked if you follow independent media. But it seems most here doesn't. US media is highly pro war and for some reason peddles these lies over and over again like Iraq, Afghanistan or so many other wars. Most people were just regular farmers. That you think a whole region were bloodthirsty barbarians really says more about the racism of american media than anything else. Most people are regular families just living everywhere on earth throughout all times. That's the beauty of humans, but war campaigns vilifies people so we can dominate them to "protect" us.

pgeorgi 3y ago
> The "Meat shield" disinfo https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2023/10/12/Gazans-must-remain-on-their-land-Egypt-s-Sisi https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2023/10/12/Ga... cites al-Sisi: > On Thursday, he said that Egypt was already hosting “nine million guests, as I call them, from many countries who came to Egypt for security and safety.” > But the case of Gazans “is different”, he said, because their displacement would mean “the elimination of the (Palestinian) cause.” That's "stay there, no matter what", al-Sisi could unilaterally open the Gazan border, after all. In plain English: Meat shield. > Most people were just regular farmers. That you think a whole region were bloodthirsty barbarians really says more about the racism of american media than anything else. First, I don't consume american media. Second, most people in Mandatory Palestine were regular farmers, alright. The armies of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq were anything but.