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It doesn't cause I only pretend I know how to code and just ask gpt4 to do everything for me

mewpmewp2 3y ago
I think having access to Copilot and GPT-4 has actually increased my addiction, because I feel so much more productive, and I can outsource so many mundane tasks. I think honestly I've been building things almost non-stop, besides work as well. In addition because of those new tools, I feel wrong and anxious when I'm not coding, because it's as if I'm not taking advantage during this quickly changing period of time with those tools becoming more powerful and powerful, I feel like I have to be completely involved in all of this in order to not miss out on this hyperfast development.
- miningape 3y ago
  I'm kinda the opposite - I can't stand using GPT as it sucks the life out of coding for me
  - mewpmewp2 3y ago
    Why so?
    - gumballindie 3y ago
      Not op but as i have experience in software i can see the high frequency of errors it generates and it’s actually a hindrance. I can tell why inexperienced users find gpts useful as it sounds convincing but overall not that useful.
      - maxdoop 3y ago
        Which version do you use? People often say things like your comment and 99.9% of the time, it’s poor prompting or a lower GPT version. GPT-4 is remarkably helpful for many coding tasks. If you can’t find use for it, that likely is more of a user problem than the tool.
        gumballindie 3y ago
        Blaming users? An interesting strategy. Nonetheless I use gpt4. It’s rather useless.
        sjcoles 3y ago
        I agree with you here. For boilerplate stuff I can never remember it's fine. With more advanced use cases I find the LLMs better at exploring a problem space and possible solutions rather than providing a solution full stop. Being able to refine a problem down into a digestible chunk the AI can take a bite of does require human level understanding that's hard to get if you haven't 'done the work' to have good fundamentals.
        gumballindie 3y ago
        > With more advanced use cases I find the LLMs better at exploring a problem space and possible solutions The number of times it misled me makes me reluctant to rely on it again. I was wasting time chasing non existent paths. I think the marketing around chatgpt is more powerful than the tool. It looks impressive to junior devs or people without expertise in a domain, but that’s about it. What bothers me is the amount of spam around this tool - they need to work on improving it and then restart promoting as thus far it’s just annoying noise.
        mewpmewp2 3y ago
        There is intuition you can develop to understand when it might be not good at solving the problem and when it will be. I have 10+ yrs coding experience, tons of side projects besides work and I find it amazing. I actually think maybe it is even better with more experience as it allows you to understand what it excels at and be critical of its output to recognize when it might be wrong. I would usually be able to do whatever it does, it would just take more energy and time, but I am able to almost immediately recognize when it is wrong.
        3y ago
  - tonyedgecombe 3y ago
    Yeah, I've decided not to use it. I only program for pleasure now and I can't see it doing anything to improve that.

I think having access to Copilot and GPT-4 has actually increased my addiction, because I feel so much more productive, and I can outsource so many mundane tasks. I think honestly I've been building things almost non-stop, besides work as well. In addition because of those new tools, I feel wrong and anxious when I'm not coding, because it's as if I'm not taking advantage during this quickly changing period of time with those tools becoming more powerful and powerful, I feel like I have to be completely involved in all of this in order to not miss out on this hyperfast development.

miningape 3y ago
I'm kinda the opposite - I can't stand using GPT as it sucks the life out of coding for me
- mewpmewp2 3y ago
  Why so?
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    Not op but as i have experience in software i can see the high frequency of errors it generates and it’s actually a hindrance. I can tell why inexperienced users find gpts useful as it sounds convincing but overall not that useful.
    - maxdoop 3y ago
      Which version do you use? People often say things like your comment and 99.9% of the time, it’s poor prompting or a lower GPT version. GPT-4 is remarkably helpful for many coding tasks. If you can’t find use for it, that likely is more of a user problem than the tool.
      - gumballindie 3y ago
        Blaming users? An interesting strategy. Nonetheless I use gpt4. It’s rather useless.
        sjcoles 3y ago
        I agree with you here. For boilerplate stuff I can never remember it's fine. With more advanced use cases I find the LLMs better at exploring a problem space and possible solutions rather than providing a solution full stop. Being able to refine a problem down into a digestible chunk the AI can take a bite of does require human level understanding that's hard to get if you haven't 'done the work' to have good fundamentals.
        gumballindie 3y ago
        > With more advanced use cases I find the LLMs better at exploring a problem space and possible solutions The number of times it misled me makes me reluctant to rely on it again. I was wasting time chasing non existent paths. I think the marketing around chatgpt is more powerful than the tool. It looks impressive to junior devs or people without expertise in a domain, but that’s about it. What bothers me is the amount of spam around this tool - they need to work on improving it and then restart promoting as thus far it’s just annoying noise.
        mewpmewp2 3y ago
        There is intuition you can develop to understand when it might be not good at solving the problem and when it will be. I have 10+ yrs coding experience, tons of side projects besides work and I find it amazing. I actually think maybe it is even better with more experience as it allows you to understand what it excels at and be critical of its output to recognize when it might be wrong. I would usually be able to do whatever it does, it would just take more energy and time, but I am able to almost immediately recognize when it is wrong.
        3y ago
- tonyedgecombe 3y ago
  Yeah, I've decided not to use it. I only program for pleasure now and I can't see it doing anything to improve that.