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One of these days I'm going to make the Internet prove to ME that IT's not a robot and see how it likes it

RCitronsBroker 3y ago
cloudflare captchas really are a grade a pest at the moment, i already switched my DNS once because i always got stuck, now it happens again
- croes 3y ago
  IIRC it's not a cloudflare capture but a problem with DNS not providing certain informations.
  - notpushkin 3y ago
    It's not even a Cloudflare captcha in this case: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38174302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38174302
    - RCitronsBroker 3y ago
      huh? i definitely was served cloudflare captchas
- tiew9Vii 3y ago
  It’s stuck an an infinite loop for me. Click the pictures, get the green tick, click the button, a brand new captcha
  - RCitronsBroker 3y ago
    yup, that’s what i mean. try switching to a different domain name server
- zxt_tzx 3y ago
  I know this doesn't really solve the underlying problem, but I find that if I use Cloudflare's WARP (https://1.1.1.1/ https://1.1.1.1/), Cloudflare is able to recognize the traffic is coming from itself and I can get past these captchas
  - RCitronsBroker 3y ago
    that’s weird, 1.1.1.1 gave me issues in the first place
ryloric 3y ago
I wish HN gave me the ability to gild comments like reddit does.
- financltravsty 3y ago
  I visited Reddit yesterday for the first time in a long time. I saw an interesting meme and wanted to write a long form piece of content in the comments. After I was done: I received two low-effort replies that revealed to me I have less-than-great communication skills or the readers put zero focus in active reading skills; and one reply with an axe to grind that focused on attacking me and making all sorts of assumptions on who I was as a person, while assuring me I was the person who couldn’t take someone challenging his ideas, and that I was the problem. Reddit is a cesspit.
  - pierat 3y ago
    Given Reddit's history with fake accounts, I'm not sure that many posts aren't just fever-dreamed LLMs on corporately created bulk accounts. Reddit has burned a lot of credibility with the power user and creator types. I know plenty who've moved to Mastodon, Blue Sky, Threads, etc. And by doing so, leaves bottom feeders there. And how else do you get engagement? You fake it, naturally.
  - ryloric 3y ago
    What are you on about? What relevance does any of this have? I like the parent comment because it made me laugh, so I was expressing my wish that it would be nice to able to appreciate them for it in some way. I used reddit's gilding feature as a shortcut to convey that wish because most people know of it and it's an easy to understand shortcut. Because reddit is a cesspit, any feature that was associated with reddit at any point of time is not worth using to convey information? How about text quoting and reply buttons, should we stop using them too? What an absurd way to look at things.
    - financltravsty 3y ago
      Clearly, I am horrible at communication or Redditors are horrible at reading something at face value. I shared a recent anecdote about Reddit, because I was reminded of it from your comment. There was no point, I was just sharing what I felt the same way you did when you wrote about wishing HN to have a gild feature. But if we want to go down the combative discourse route: you're hyperbolizing. Reddit became the mess it was due to a mixture of many things. One of those was its site design/UI; notably public display of post and comment scores that leads to a "dog-pile" effect, rather than natural voting patterns. Being able to gild just intensifies the effects, and leads to posts being interacted with not because the content of their message is informative or interesting, but because it has countless flashing symbols violating your focus, screaming "look at me! look at me!"
ianlevesque 3y ago
This website doesn’t ever work as a paywall bypass anymore. Just captchas for days.
- dmd 3y ago
  No, that’s just them blocking your DNS provider. You’re using cloudflare, quad9, or similar. Google “cloudflare archive.is” for details.
  - uconnectlol 3y ago
    nope. archive.is has their cloudflare configuration set to "i am under attack mode"[1], which makes the cloudflare captcha come up every time a tor / vpn / "bad" IP address visits it. its been like this since 2015. if you aren't familiar, cloudflare just serves tor / vpn / "bad" IP captchas for every domain you visit. the captchas themselves are broken half the time. in 2018 cloudflare then added deep packet inspection to see if you're using tor browser and then let you not solve the captcha [2]. but if you're in "i am under attack mode" or some other non default cloudflare configuration, your users will get the captcha 1. or something similar, been a while since i went through cloudflare's configuration options 2. this is also why you will never be able to browse the internet with links / lynx / w3m or use curl / wget ever again without using your bare IP
    - dmd 3y ago
      Then why do I get a captcha loop if I use 1.1.1.1 or 9.9.9.9 as my resolver ... but if I use 8.8.8.8, I don't? I can switch back and forth and reproduce it perfectly each time.
      - uconnectlol 3y ago
        ah okay well both are true: if you use tor / vpn (regardless of what DNS server is used) you are blocked from archive.is. if you use bare IP but 1.1.1.1 as your DNS, then i guess you get blocked too
    - 3y ago
uconnectlol 3y ago
this archive.is website (and its other domains) has been misconfigured in "I am under attack mode" since 2015 or so. which makes cloudflare's nonsense captcha come up every time you visit it (and / or just the javascript bot check script).
- hoistbypetard 3y ago
  Source? That has never happened to me, and I use archive.is/archive.ph/whatever other domain they indicate I should use very regularly.
  - uconnectlol 3y ago
    sorry i forget to state i'm talking about if you have a "bad" IP address. for random people with their home IP it normally doesn't happen
dang 3y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38554322 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38554322.

cloudflare captchas really are a grade a pest at the moment, i already switched my DNS once because i always got stuck, now it happens again

croes 3y ago
IIRC it's not a cloudflare capture but a problem with DNS not providing certain informations.
- notpushkin 3y ago
  It's not even a Cloudflare captcha in this case: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38174302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38174302
  - RCitronsBroker 3y ago
    huh? i definitely was served cloudflare captchas
tiew9Vii 3y ago
It’s stuck an an infinite loop for me. Click the pictures, get the green tick, click the button, a brand new captcha
- RCitronsBroker 3y ago
  yup, that’s what i mean. try switching to a different domain name server
zxt_tzx 3y ago
I know this doesn't really solve the underlying problem, but I find that if I use Cloudflare's WARP (https://1.1.1.1/ https://1.1.1.1/), Cloudflare is able to recognize the traffic is coming from itself and I can get past these captchas
- RCitronsBroker 3y ago
  that’s weird, 1.1.1.1 gave me issues in the first place

ryloric 3y ago

I wish HN gave me the ability to gild comments like reddit does.

financltravsty 3y ago
I visited Reddit yesterday for the first time in a long time. I saw an interesting meme and wanted to write a long form piece of content in the comments. After I was done: I received two low-effort replies that revealed to me I have less-than-great communication skills or the readers put zero focus in active reading skills; and one reply with an axe to grind that focused on attacking me and making all sorts of assumptions on who I was as a person, while assuring me I was the person who couldn’t take someone challenging his ideas, and that I was the problem. Reddit is a cesspit.
- pierat 3y ago
  Given Reddit's history with fake accounts, I'm not sure that many posts aren't just fever-dreamed LLMs on corporately created bulk accounts. Reddit has burned a lot of credibility with the power user and creator types. I know plenty who've moved to Mastodon, Blue Sky, Threads, etc. And by doing so, leaves bottom feeders there. And how else do you get engagement? You fake it, naturally.
- ryloric 3y ago
  What are you on about? What relevance does any of this have? I like the parent comment because it made me laugh, so I was expressing my wish that it would be nice to able to appreciate them for it in some way. I used reddit's gilding feature as a shortcut to convey that wish because most people know of it and it's an easy to understand shortcut. Because reddit is a cesspit, any feature that was associated with reddit at any point of time is not worth using to convey information? How about text quoting and reply buttons, should we stop using them too? What an absurd way to look at things.
  - financltravsty 3y ago
    Clearly, I am horrible at communication or Redditors are horrible at reading something at face value. I shared a recent anecdote about Reddit, because I was reminded of it from your comment. There was no point, I was just sharing what I felt the same way you did when you wrote about wishing HN to have a gild feature. But if we want to go down the combative discourse route: you're hyperbolizing. Reddit became the mess it was due to a mixture of many things. One of those was its site design/UI; notably public display of post and comment scores that leads to a "dog-pile" effect, rather than natural voting patterns. Being able to gild just intensifies the effects, and leads to posts being interacted with not because the content of their message is informative or interesting, but because it has countless flashing symbols violating your focus, screaming "look at me! look at me!"

ianlevesque 3y ago

This website doesn’t ever work as a paywall bypass anymore. Just captchas for days.

dmd 3y ago
No, that’s just them blocking your DNS provider. You’re using cloudflare, quad9, or similar. Google “cloudflare archive.is” for details.
- uconnectlol 3y ago
  nope. archive.is has their cloudflare configuration set to "i am under attack mode"[1], which makes the cloudflare captcha come up every time a tor / vpn / "bad" IP address visits it. its been like this since 2015. if you aren't familiar, cloudflare just serves tor / vpn / "bad" IP captchas for every domain you visit. the captchas themselves are broken half the time. in 2018 cloudflare then added deep packet inspection to see if you're using tor browser and then let you not solve the captcha [2]. but if you're in "i am under attack mode" or some other non default cloudflare configuration, your users will get the captcha 1. or something similar, been a while since i went through cloudflare's configuration options 2. this is also why you will never be able to browse the internet with links / lynx / w3m or use curl / wget ever again without using your bare IP
  - dmd 3y ago
    Then why do I get a captcha loop if I use 1.1.1.1 or 9.9.9.9 as my resolver ... but if I use 8.8.8.8, I don't? I can switch back and forth and reproduce it perfectly each time.
    - uconnectlol 3y ago
      ah okay well both are true: if you use tor / vpn (regardless of what DNS server is used) you are blocked from archive.is. if you use bare IP but 1.1.1.1 as your DNS, then i guess you get blocked too
  - 3y ago

uconnectlol 3y ago

this archive.is website (and its other domains) has been misconfigured in "I am under attack mode" since 2015 or so. which makes cloudflare's nonsense captcha come up every time you visit it (and / or just the javascript bot check script).

hoistbypetard 3y ago
Source? That has never happened to me, and I use archive.is/archive.ph/whatever other domain they indicate I should use very regularly.
- uconnectlol 3y ago
  sorry i forget to state i'm talking about if you have a "bad" IP address. for random people with their home IP it normally doesn't happen

dang 3y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38554322 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38554322.