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I’ve played a bit with Gen3 NVG’s and clip on thermal imagers that offer limited “sensor fusion” capabilities. I can’t understate how fucking awesome the techn

I’ve played a bit with Gen3 NVG’s and clip on thermal imagers that offer limited “sensor fusion” capabilities. I can’t understate how fucking awesome the technology is, even the stuff available in civilian market.

Lutzb 3y ago
Talking about the civilian market. What is the current top of the line hardware that is available to non-gov individuals?
- fullspectrumdev 3y ago
  Depends where you are! ITAR/etc means the markets fucking confusing. In the US it’s possible to get really nice L3Harris Gen3 tubes, whereas in Europe you are more likely to find Photonis Echo or similar - which are really nice. There’s the older school green phosphor tubes, and more modern white phosphor tubes - the WP ones are better in terms of contrast, and IMO easier on the eyes. The set I have the most time on uses Gen3 WP Photonis Echo tubes, and is really nice, but I’m told it doesn’t hold up great compared to the ones available in the US. There’s some Chinese tubes on the market now that are supposedly rather good, but I’ve not played with those.
  - philwelch 3y ago
    > There’s some Chinese tubes on the market now that are supposedly rather good, but I’ve not played with those. I wonder if they reverse engineered the stuff we left behind in Afghanistan.
    - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
      I’d not be surprised tbh given the timing of the sudden leap in Chinese commercial tube quality. While the general science behind Gen3 NVG is pretty well known, having a few sets in hand would have massively sped up development, and there’s now a couple of suppliers knocking out really quite respectable tubes.
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- natebleker 3y ago
  The most recently developed quad tube setup with a wide field of view has made it to the civilian market. https://tnvc.com/shop/l3harris-gpnvg-ruggedized-bridge/ https://tnvc.com/shop/l3harris-gpnvg-ruggedized-bridge/
  - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
    I hope some day to have the disposable income for a set of quad tubes that make their way across the Atlantic (it’s an absurd markup). Even the chassis for them with a “install your own IIT” is stupid expensive, and 3DP versions of the chassis just aren’t there yet.

Lutzb 3y ago

Talking about the civilian market. What is the current top of the line hardware that is available to non-gov individuals?

fullspectrumdev 3y ago
Depends where you are! ITAR/etc means the markets fucking confusing. In the US it’s possible to get really nice L3Harris Gen3 tubes, whereas in Europe you are more likely to find Photonis Echo or similar - which are really nice. There’s the older school green phosphor tubes, and more modern white phosphor tubes - the WP ones are better in terms of contrast, and IMO easier on the eyes. The set I have the most time on uses Gen3 WP Photonis Echo tubes, and is really nice, but I’m told it doesn’t hold up great compared to the ones available in the US. There’s some Chinese tubes on the market now that are supposedly rather good, but I’ve not played with those.
- philwelch 3y ago
  > There’s some Chinese tubes on the market now that are supposedly rather good, but I’ve not played with those. I wonder if they reverse engineered the stuff we left behind in Afghanistan.
  - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
    I’d not be surprised tbh given the timing of the sudden leap in Chinese commercial tube quality. While the general science behind Gen3 NVG is pretty well known, having a few sets in hand would have massively sped up development, and there’s now a couple of suppliers knocking out really quite respectable tubes.
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natebleker 3y ago
The most recently developed quad tube setup with a wide field of view has made it to the civilian market. https://tnvc.com/shop/l3harris-gpnvg-ruggedized-bridge/ https://tnvc.com/shop/l3harris-gpnvg-ruggedized-bridge/
- fullspectrumdev 3y ago
  I hope some day to have the disposable income for a set of quad tubes that make their way across the Atlantic (it’s an absurd markup). Even the chassis for them with a “install your own IIT” is stupid expensive, and 3DP versions of the chassis just aren’t there yet.