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i'm 47, And you're patronising. Watch and see the vote result, people are going to vote conservative until a third more right leaning party arrives.

happymellon 3y ago
I'm 43, and I hate to agree with you but... We have hit an all time low of Brexit success in opinion polls, but that's still 30%. Cameron held on to power with 33% of the vote. As much as I would like to see the Tories out, I'll believe it when I see it.
- flir 3y ago
  2015 GE was 36.8% vs 30.4% of the vote resulting in 330 seats vs 258 seats (FPTP is a joke), so a 6.4% gap on the day. Opinion polling in the run-up to the 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_U... Recent polling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_U...
flir 3y ago
I'll watch, and I'll see another 1997. Don't you remember what the last days of the Major government felt like? It felt like this. I'm older than you (not by much) and my earliest political memory is of the 1979 election. Nobody aged under 60 is voting based on what happened in the 70s, and damn few people over 60. Maybe some are still using it as an excuse, but I think most of them have moved on to the Iraq War as their acceptable fig leaf. By your logic (hordes of "Never Labour" voters still replaying the winter of discontent in their heads) 1997 couldn't have happened.
- benbojangles 3y ago
  Don't you remember what the last days of the Major government felt like? It felt like this. > I remember, and today is nothing close to what you are suggesting, the climate is incredibly different now. Nobody aged under 60 is voting based on what happened in the 70s, and damn few people over 60. > Sorry to tell you but they are voting based on Tony Blair & Gordon Browns tenure and that won't change for a generation. Never Labour. > Due to 1997-2010. 2005-2010 were the years that cut hardest. It's only 13 years ago and well within the feelings and memories of a very large amount of the population. Don't you recall the pound value crash 2008, poor benefits, forced unpaid labour, peak housing price inflation, mass unemployment.

happymellon 3y ago

I'm 43, and I hate to agree with you but... We have hit an all time low of Brexit success in opinion polls, but that's still 30%. Cameron held on to power with 33% of the vote. As much as I would like to see the Tories out, I'll believe it when I see it.

flir 3y ago
2015 GE was 36.8% vs 30.4% of the vote resulting in 330 seats vs 258 seats (FPTP is a joke), so a 6.4% gap on the day. Opinion polling in the run-up to the 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_U... Recent polling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_U...

flir 3y ago

I'll watch, and I'll see another 1997. Don't you remember what the last days of the Major government felt like? It felt like this. I'm older than you (not by much) and my earliest political memory is of the 1979 election. Nobody aged under 60 is voting based on what happened in the 70s, and damn few people over 60. Maybe some are still using it as an excuse, but I think most of them have moved on to the Iraq War as their acceptable fig leaf. By your logic (hordes of "Never Labour" voters still replaying the winter of discontent in their heads) 1997 couldn't have happened.

benbojangles 3y ago
Don't you remember what the last days of the Major government felt like? It felt like this. > I remember, and today is nothing close to what you are suggesting, the climate is incredibly different now. Nobody aged under 60 is voting based on what happened in the 70s, and damn few people over 60. > Sorry to tell you but they are voting based on Tony Blair & Gordon Browns tenure and that won't change for a generation. Never Labour. > Due to 1997-2010. 2005-2010 were the years that cut hardest. It's only 13 years ago and well within the feelings and memories of a very large amount of the population. Don't you recall the pound value crash 2008, poor benefits, forced unpaid labour, peak housing price inflation, mass unemployment.