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FTA: "But there’s also a clear pattern, if you look at his behavior, of really seeking power in an extreme way.” This is not the type of person we want in char

FTA: "But there’s also a clear pattern, if you look at his behavior, of really seeking power in an extreme way.” This is not the type of person we want in charge of potentially world changing AI.

EA-3167 3y ago
The problem is that the kind of person who's going to be able to get the funding and take this sort of risk is pretty much always the sort to bring dangerous new to tech into the fore. I wish it wasn't that way, but I think it's naive to think that the scope of the risk somehow changes human nature. It's the Great Filter, if not this, then something else.
- lordfrito 3y ago
  > the kind of person who's going to be able to get the funding and take this sort of risk I understand what you're saying, and why people like this are in SV. Risk of money isn't what I'm worried about. It's the risk to humanity. This tech will be used for surveillance/propaganda and military applications. That's where the big $$$ money will be coming from. Either that or Bond super villain types -- the kind that want this kind of power at all costs. The longer we can hold off their involvement, the better. My understanding of the tech is that the breakthrough (transformers) is known -- so the hardest part is behind us, now comes the relentless evolution of the tech. So at this point it's really a race towards who can scale the most (holding more variables in memory, faster processing) to achieve better "cognition". So it's literally a race to build the biggest/baddest server farms full of the biggest/baddest GPUs. That will take nation state money, or dystopian mega-corp / Bond super villian money. The people with money, and those connected in power, are already aware of this and are already moving pieces on the board. Microsoft was all over the OpenAI situation -- they get it. They get where this is going. China is desperate to build their own GPU farms... the race is already here. So I don't like that this tech is already in the hands of someone who is "seeking power in an extreme way". Just means that, like Zuckerberg/Facebook situation, the population will be "wowed" for a while before they wake up and realize what the end goal was all along (total control of society). At least with Google it took some time before they decided to become evil. Seems like the opportunity to go slow, balancing growth while we deal with social issues, is already lost. I don't like being all pessimistic about this stuff, but the stuff OpenAI is doing is scary to me in a way that all the other tech I've seen over the past 50 years isn't.
cyanydeez 3y ago
it is the type you'll get. especially if capitalism gets to lead everything because it's "innovative"
- catchnear4321 3y ago
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FTA: "But there’s also a clear pattern, if you look at his behavior, of really seeking power in an extreme way.” This is not the type of person we want in charge of potentially world changing AI.

EA-3167 3y ago

The problem is that the kind of person who's going to be able to get the funding and take this sort of risk is pretty much always the sort to bring dangerous new to tech into the fore. I wish it wasn't that way, but I think it's naive to think that the scope of the risk somehow changes human nature. It's the Great Filter, if not this, then something else.

lordfrito 3y ago
> the kind of person who's going to be able to get the funding and take this sort of risk I understand what you're saying, and why people like this are in SV. Risk of money isn't what I'm worried about. It's the risk to humanity. This tech will be used for surveillance/propaganda and military applications. That's where the big $$$ money will be coming from. Either that or Bond super villain types -- the kind that want this kind of power at all costs. The longer we can hold off their involvement, the better. My understanding of the tech is that the breakthrough (transformers) is known -- so the hardest part is behind us, now comes the relentless evolution of the tech. So at this point it's really a race towards who can scale the most (holding more variables in memory, faster processing) to achieve better "cognition". So it's literally a race to build the biggest/baddest server farms full of the biggest/baddest GPUs. That will take nation state money, or dystopian mega-corp / Bond super villian money. The people with money, and those connected in power, are already aware of this and are already moving pieces on the board. Microsoft was all over the OpenAI situation -- they get it. They get where this is going. China is desperate to build their own GPU farms... the race is already here. So I don't like that this tech is already in the hands of someone who is "seeking power in an extreme way". Just means that, like Zuckerberg/Facebook situation, the population will be "wowed" for a while before they wake up and realize what the end goal was all along (total control of society). At least with Google it took some time before they decided to become evil. Seems like the opportunity to go slow, balancing growth while we deal with social issues, is already lost. I don't like being all pessimistic about this stuff, but the stuff OpenAI is doing is scary to me in a way that all the other tech I've seen over the past 50 years isn't.

cyanydeez 3y ago

it is the type you'll get. especially if capitalism gets to lead everything because it's "innovative"

catchnear4321 3y ago
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