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I've had lots of hopes for Framework products too - smaller motherboards for possible tablets, a Khadas Mind-type connector like what you're describing, a nicer

I've had lots of hopes for Framework products too - smaller motherboards for possible tablets, a Khadas Mind-type connector like what you're describing, a nicer 13" display like the current 16" one, heck ideally even a Framework phone - modular and _modern_ (unlike Fairphone; also see: small android phone project). But I think given how young/new they are, it's fine for them to take a little longer as long as their "core" products are at least comparable/as good as competition (which I think they are excluding costs).

rtkwe 3y ago
I get why not though tablets and phones are completely different mainboard than a laptop and completely different chipsets with their supporting setups and everything. Trying to have a laptop that works as a tablet or a tablet that works as a laptop is a land of tough compromises and that's not even getting into how tough it'd be to make a thin but repairable tablet.
- user_7832 3y ago
  I probably should've clarified, I am talking about x64/Intel/AMD tablets. I agree size/thickness isn't the easiest, but it's more of an engineering challenge than something impossible. I wouldn't mind an undervolted 7 or 10 Watt i5 tablet at all, and currently surface devices are the only "major" brand selling x64 tablets that I know of. Another interesting thing regarding small/thin x64 motherboards is the existence of 3.5" ultra-small SBCs like those by Aaeon. If they didn't cost so much I'd love to DIY a tiny, thin tablet out of them. The "advantage" of a small motherboard is that you can put it in a tablet, or put it in a laptop with a better cooling system, potentially reducing the need for another new component.
pcchristie 3y ago
The new Fairphone is pretty modern, no?
- user_7832 3y ago
  Unfortunately performance still seems on the lower side. See https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-5-benchmarks-3362975/ https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-5-benchmarks-3362... for example. I know it's not necessary to have a blazing fast phone, but as someone using a 2020 iPhone, performance does degrade over time/battery voltage.
panick21_ 3y ago
They are startup created in 2019. I think you have hilariously unrealistic expectation, making hardware is really hard.
- user_7832 3y ago
  I think you misunderstood my statement. I don’t expect them to do all (or any) of that right now or even in 5 years, I just feel that some of these are goals that tend more towards/continue the trend of the modularity that they’re bringing to the market.

rtkwe 3y ago

I get why not though tablets and phones are completely different mainboard than a laptop and completely different chipsets with their supporting setups and everything. Trying to have a laptop that works as a tablet or a tablet that works as a laptop is a land of tough compromises and that's not even getting into how tough it'd be to make a thin but repairable tablet.

user_7832 3y ago
I probably should've clarified, I am talking about x64/Intel/AMD tablets. I agree size/thickness isn't the easiest, but it's more of an engineering challenge than something impossible. I wouldn't mind an undervolted 7 or 10 Watt i5 tablet at all, and currently surface devices are the only "major" brand selling x64 tablets that I know of. Another interesting thing regarding small/thin x64 motherboards is the existence of 3.5" ultra-small SBCs like those by Aaeon. If they didn't cost so much I'd love to DIY a tiny, thin tablet out of them. The "advantage" of a small motherboard is that you can put it in a tablet, or put it in a laptop with a better cooling system, potentially reducing the need for another new component.

pcchristie 3y ago

The new Fairphone is pretty modern, no?

user_7832 3y ago
Unfortunately performance still seems on the lower side. See https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-5-benchmarks-3362975/ https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-5-benchmarks-3362... for example. I know it's not necessary to have a blazing fast phone, but as someone using a 2020 iPhone, performance does degrade over time/battery voltage.

panick21_ 3y ago

They are startup created in 2019. I think you have hilariously unrealistic expectation, making hardware is really hard.

user_7832 3y ago
I think you misunderstood my statement. I don’t expect them to do all (or any) of that right now or even in 5 years, I just feel that some of these are goals that tend more towards/continue the trend of the modularity that they’re bringing to the market.