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What I find interesting in this whole situation is that there are huge Swedish companies like Spotify (which I believe are run/founded by Swedes) that do not ha

What I find interesting in this whole situation is that there are huge Swedish companies like Spotify (which I believe are run/founded by Swedes) that do not have a union agreement [0]. Yet somehow Musk is the evil American capitalist that does not respect local customs :) 0: https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/sweden-spotify-pulls-out-of-negotiations-over-a-collective-bargaining-agreement-with-swedish-trade-unions/ https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/sweden-s...

Dah00n 3y ago
Even though Spotify does have some metal in their catalogue, I don't see how a metalworkers union could strike against Spotify. Instead of some anti-US sentiment that you not-so-hidden point at, the real answer is different unions with different cultures and bargaining power.
- mgiannopoulos 3y ago
  I guess a /s was missing from your the first part of your comment. Still, the sentiment I sense is mostly anti-Musk/anti-billionaires. It’s fine to talk about differences in cultures but when you have Swedish companies founded by Swedes (and how are now also billionaires) doing the same thing as Tesla, the narrative kind of brakes down imho. How did Spotify get away not having a union for over 15 years?
  - Dah00n 3y ago
    >How did Spotify get away not having a union for over 15 years? I think you are missing the point here. You seem to be basing your expectations on one union by how another union behaves. I have no idea why they do what they do, but this is not some kind of US hate thing - that's a bit far-fetched in my opinion. Ask yourself this: Where you live, is the culture and history of a union representing metalworkers the same as those that would be representing someone from Spotify? In most countries, unions in different areas act very differently. Programmers, metalworkers, miners, academia - their unions are more often than not very different.

Dah00n 3y ago

Even though Spotify does have some metal in their catalogue, I don't see how a metalworkers union could strike against Spotify. Instead of some anti-US sentiment that you not-so-hidden point at, the real answer is different unions with different cultures and bargaining power.

mgiannopoulos 3y ago
I guess a /s was missing from your the first part of your comment. Still, the sentiment I sense is mostly anti-Musk/anti-billionaires. It’s fine to talk about differences in cultures but when you have Swedish companies founded by Swedes (and how are now also billionaires) doing the same thing as Tesla, the narrative kind of brakes down imho. How did Spotify get away not having a union for over 15 years?
- Dah00n 3y ago
  >How did Spotify get away not having a union for over 15 years? I think you are missing the point here. You seem to be basing your expectations on one union by how another union behaves. I have no idea why they do what they do, but this is not some kind of US hate thing - that's a bit far-fetched in my opinion. Ask yourself this: Where you live, is the culture and history of a union representing metalworkers the same as those that would be representing someone from Spotify? In most countries, unions in different areas act very differently. Programmers, metalworkers, miners, academia - their unions are more often than not very different.