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It's very much designed for and around Wikidata. > Wikifunctions will allow easy access to large knowledge bases such as Wikidata, but also to binary input and

It's very much designed for and around Wikidata. > Wikifunctions will allow easy access to large knowledge bases such as Wikidata, but also to binary input and output files https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/08/07/wikifunctions-is-starting-up/ https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/08/07/wikifunctions-is-start... > Using the simple facts housed in Wikidata, you will be able to write functions that make calculations, provide a person’s age, estimate population densities, and more, and integrate the results into Wikipedia. https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:FAQ https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:FAQ > In the future: > - It will be possible to call Wikifunctions functions from other Wikimedia projects, and integrate their results in the output of the page. > - It will be possible to use data from Wikidata in functions.

zozbot234 3y ago
Wikidata cannot express the "semantic" content of average encyclopedic text, which is an express goal of Wikifunctions. So they will have to expand the data model quite a bit compared to what Wikidata has today. (This can be done quite cleanly though, since the whole point of RDF is to be able to express general graphs, and this aspect has been made even stronger with RDF* which aligns fairly well with the "frame" semantics Wikifunctions plans to use for the above purpose.)
- starkparker 3y ago
  Wikifunctions are arguably the prerequisite to making that effort, since even if you extended Wikidata with more semantic connections, you couldn't do anything with them. This is a large part of why Abstract Wikipedia's goal is NLG, and almost all of the initial Wikifunctions facilitate NLG.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > NLG what is NLG?..
    - haskellandchill 3y ago
      Natural Language Generation
- smsm42 3y ago
  Wikidata is already modeled in RDF: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Fo...
  - zozbot234 3y ago
    Yes but there are significant restrictions as to what can be expressed there - it's limited to assertions of the form 'well-known entity X has pre-defined property P with value Y (or "some value" or "no value"), with one further layer of "qualifiers"'. RDF itself is fully compositional, and RDF* extends that compositionality even further, providing a standard means to reify arbitrary RDF statements and make complex assertions about them.

zozbot234 3y ago

Wikidata cannot express the "semantic" content of average encyclopedic text, which is an express goal of Wikifunctions. So they will have to expand the data model quite a bit compared to what Wikidata has today. (This can be done quite cleanly though, since the whole point of RDF is to be able to express general graphs, and this aspect has been made even stronger with RDF* which aligns fairly well with the "frame" semantics Wikifunctions plans to use for the above purpose.)

starkparker 3y ago
Wikifunctions are arguably the prerequisite to making that effort, since even if you extended Wikidata with more semantic connections, you couldn't do anything with them. This is a large part of why Abstract Wikipedia's goal is NLG, and almost all of the initial Wikifunctions facilitate NLG.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > NLG what is NLG?..
  - haskellandchill 3y ago
    Natural Language Generation
smsm42 3y ago
Wikidata is already modeled in RDF: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Fo...
- zozbot234 3y ago
  Yes but there are significant restrictions as to what can be expressed there - it's limited to assertions of the form 'well-known entity X has pre-defined property P with value Y (or "some value" or "no value"), with one further layer of "qualifiers"'. RDF itself is fully compositional, and RDF* extends that compositionality even further, providing a standard means to reify arbitrary RDF statements and make complex assertions about them.