4 ms·

Uhm, why would they be ethically bound to not tell me this? If I am going to a third party to adjust my behavior, I don’t want someone who is just going to val

by Gud 3y ago

Uhm, why would they be ethically bound to not tell me this? If I am going to a third party to adjust my behavior, I don’t want someone who is just going to validate my feelings. I want actionable advice.

legitster 3y ago
Because no insurance company is going to pay for someone to tell you that you'd probably be happier if you had more kids. Lol. So the entire industry has adopted a professional ethics code that is extremely edited. > If I am going to a third party to adjust my behavior, I don’t want someone who is just going to validate my feelings. I want actionable advice. I'm with you, but if you polled the average person looking for a therapist we are almost certainly in the minority.
SuperNinKenDo 3y ago
Well, imagine a world where counsellors could use their position with a constant roster of vulnerable people to, for instance, tell them to go to church. It's definitely potentially problematic. So psychologists have in some way developed an idea that their role is to facillitate people's mental well-being within whichever lifestyle they lead. This can be very effective for some things. For instance CBT can help you rewire your brain to work more the way you want. If you come to a counselor and say "I have anxiety with public speaking and want to get rid of it" then they have some tools that can help. But on more fundamental issues like "I live in a sick society", these tools can help you get through your day, maybe, but the actual remedy is more fundamental. This is why people need serious Liberal Arts and Humanities, but we as a society scoff at that more and more. Wonder if that has anything to do with our abject misery, hmmm.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > tell them to go to church. I imagine that's not what they would say unless the patient were already of a religious bent. The mental health benefits of going to church are unrelated to the religion itself, but are related to having a supportive community and regular socialization. There are many other ways of getting those benefits. A good therapist would recommend whatever method the patient would be most likely to adhere to.

by Gud 3y ago

legitster 3y ago

Because no insurance company is going to pay for someone to tell you that you'd probably be happier if you had more kids. Lol. So the entire industry has adopted a professional ethics code that is extremely edited. > If I am going to a third party to adjust my behavior, I don’t want someone who is just going to validate my feelings. I want actionable advice. I'm with you, but if you polled the average person looking for a therapist we are almost certainly in the minority.

SuperNinKenDo 3y ago

Well, imagine a world where counsellors could use their position with a constant roster of vulnerable people to, for instance, tell them to go to church. It's definitely potentially problematic. So psychologists have in some way developed an idea that their role is to facillitate people's mental well-being within whichever lifestyle they lead. This can be very effective for some things. For instance CBT can help you rewire your brain to work more the way you want. If you come to a counselor and say "I have anxiety with public speaking and want to get rid of it" then they have some tools that can help. But on more fundamental issues like "I live in a sick society", these tools can help you get through your day, maybe, but the actual remedy is more fundamental. This is why people need serious Liberal Arts and Humanities, but we as a society scoff at that more and more. Wonder if that has anything to do with our abject misery, hmmm.

JohnFen 3y ago
> tell them to go to church. I imagine that's not what they would say unless the patient were already of a religious bent. The mental health benefits of going to church are unrelated to the religion itself, but are related to having a supportive community and regular socialization. There are many other ways of getting those benefits. A good therapist would recommend whatever method the patient would be most likely to adhere to.