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Why do they gate access at country level if it's about language. I live in Europe and speak English just fine. Can't they just offer it in English only until th
by ithkuil 3y ago
Why do they gate access at country level if it's about language. I live in Europe and speak English just fine. Can't they just offer it in English only until the multi-language support is ready?
- throwaway09223 3y agoThere must be mountains of legal concerns which vary by jurisdiction. Both in terms of copyright / right of authorship as well as GDPR/data protection. Litigation is probably inescapable. I'm sure they want to be on solid footing.
- FartyMcFarter 3y agoCould be a legal issue, privacy or whatnot.
- ithkuil 3y agoShouldn't be hard to just say so instead of claiming it's multilingual readiness?
- throwaway09223 3y agoQuite the opposite - it's not only hard it's also unwise. Admitting that you know that your product may create legal liabilities is not a very smart thing to do.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoDid OpenAI ask for permission or forgiveness in that regard?
- leptons 3y agoDid OpenAI board ask for permission or forgiveness? Seems like it was forgiveness and they lost.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoIf boards cannot hold CEOs accountable then who can?
- leptons 3y agoExcept their CEO wasn't held accountable, it was a coup, and the board was removed and the CEO reinstated.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoRight, so then, who is left to hold CEOs accountable?
- rvnx 3y agoThey could create a separate limited liability legal entity that is a full subsidiary of Google. That subsidiary could license the technology or platform from the parent company and they'd be able to launch worldwide.
- throwaway09223 3y agoThis could be an answer to an intent to violate any law. The counterpoint is that this doesn't actually work in practice.
- rvnx 3y agoWell that's Deepmind I guess ?
- ithkuil 3y agoYou can spin it in a different way: "We committed to meet all the regulation in each country we're operating in. Our teams are working on it. In the meantime we'll start in our domestic market, because obviously if there has to be a first country to open it would be our origin country, right?"
- nightsd01 3y agoYep, there is a big reason why Europe has so few successful big tech companies, it is a regulatory hellscape. They have so many pointless privacy regulations that only the “big” companies can even hope to compete in many markets like ad tech.
- jacquesm 3y agoThere is a big reason why the USA outside of Silicon Valley and Seattle has so few successful big tech companies: because success begets success and capital breeds more capital. If it was just European regulation you'd expect SV equivalents everywhere except for Europe. That didn't happen. And the last thing we need is more competition in ad tech.
- thefourthchime 3y agoSeattle, Boston, New York, and Austin have joined the room.
- jacquesm 3y agoI think I covered Seattle. And so have Eindhoven (ASML), London (Revolut, Monzo, Wise and Deliveroo), Paris (DailyMotion, AppGratis), Berlin (Soundcloud, Mister Spex, Zalando, Helpling, Delivery Hero, Home24 and HelloFresh) and Amsterdam (Sonos (ok, technically Hilversum), Booking.com, TomTom) etc, etc. So what? Tech companies exist the world over. The specific kind of tech company that requires a mountain of free cash and that can monopolize a whole segment is a SV anomaly and Microsoft is the exception simply because of when it started.
- brainwad 3y agoLaunching anything as a big tech company in Europe is an absolute nightmare. Between GDPR, DSA, DMA and in Google's case, several EC remedies, it takes months to years to get anything launched.
- krzyk 3y agoOpenAI somehow managed to do a release worldwide.
- tazjin 3y agoFor some values of "world".
- buzzert 3y agoThey got banned in Italy pretty quickly.
- ithkuil 3y agoBut the ban didn't last long (I'm using openAI from Italy)
- cyanydeez 3y agoby not having lawyers and believing they did nothing wrong. you typically see brazen behavior from ignorance.
- nmfisher 3y agoOpenAI isn’t a monopolistic behemoth like Google with a cash cow to protect. Google attracts far more attention and has a lot more to lose.
- dataking 3y agoA startup doesn't have the same target of its back as a large publicly traded corporation. It also has a different culture and is expected to take risks that non-startups aren't. In other words, not an apples-to-apples comparison. Edit: grammar.
- OJFord 3y agoThe UK is both in Europe and not on the list, which would be even more of an oversight, so I don't think it's that.