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It's already not legal to smoke in public for weed and in most places for cigarettes. Frankly I don't think outright prohibition addresses that any better than

• anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > Utah sounds like your ideal Not enough trees. Nor enough employment in my non-remoteable field. Public smoking is a concern, but the smoke will leak even if smoked inside of a home. With edibles and inhalers I don't understand why people thought it was a good idea to legalize marijuana smoking. > Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. Generalizing the principle of the swinging your fists near someone else's nose saying.
  • mandmandam 3y ago
    Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. You do know that, right? I'm not detecting any humour markers...
    • anonymouskimmer 3y ago
      > Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. You do understand that many tort suits, and outright laws, are over subjective harms, right? (trash in neighbors yards, loud sounds late at night, smells from chemical industries, etcetera) That laws such as disability protection laws exist? https://www.chemicalsensitivityfoundation.org/index.html https://www.chemicalsensitivityfoundation.org/index.html
      • mandmandam 3y ago
        ... None of your examples are like for like. Lots of people love the smell of cannabis. No one loves "trash in neighbors yards, loud sounds late at night, smells from chemical industries". Arguing in bad faith is lame dude.
        • anonymouskimmer 3y ago
          > trash in neighbors yards There are entire messy neighborhoods. > loud sounds late at night People sleep at different times of the day. > smells from chemical industries People who lack a sense of smell don't care. Special pleading for marijuana smoking is also lame.
        • cscurmudgeon 3y ago
          Blatantly ignoring harms of secondhand weed is more lame: Second hand weed is harmful. https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w...
          • Forbo 3y ago
            I'm getting a 404 on this.
            • anonymouskimmer 3y ago
              https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-what-are-the-risks-to-your-health https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w...
    • bigstrat2003 3y ago
      I don't agree with that. If blasting music can be a matter for legislation (nuisance laws and the like), then so can bothering people around you with the reek of smoking weed.
      • mandmandam 3y ago
        As mentioned, there are already laws around smoking in public. OP is complaining that he might get a whiff coming from his neighbors house.
        • anonymouskimmer 3y ago
          https://www.greenstate.com/explained/where-is-it-legal-to-smoke-weed-in-public/ https://www.greenstate.com/explained/where-is-it-legal-to-sm... > In a few states, however, public consumption is completely tolerated or allowed in licensed lounges and designated areas. And the laws as is make it easy for people to lie to the police about exactly where they were when they were smoking the weed.
          • bozhark 3y ago
            Because that doesn’t matter and this is a useless argument.
        • mcculley 3y ago
          I recently visited Manhattan and walked many miles touring it. The smell was in many places, with people smoking out in public. It is offensive and rude.
          • mandmandam 3y ago
            > It is offensive and rude. If you take one of the world's most popular pastimes that personally, and want it legislated against on that basis, I have no time for your arguments. Like - Manhattan. Yeah, you're gonna smell cannabis in Manhattan. It doesn't matter the tiniest bit what the laws are; you're gonna smell it. It's not something to take as a personal insult, and it's wild you insist that it is. Anyway, weren't we talking about a serious issue? Like, is this why Americans are ok with all the domestic spying - they're too worried about sniffing a reefer on the wind? Ugh.
    • cscurmudgeon 3y ago
      > Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. Wish it stopped at just the smell. Second hand weed is harmful. https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-what-are-the-risks-to-your-health https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w...
      • moron4hire 3y ago
        Being able to smell from the outside that someone is smoking inside their home is not "second hand smoking". You'd need to be in the same room as them to get the necessary level of exposure.
        • cscurmudgeon 3y ago
          False. That perfectly fits the definition of second hand smoking. https://www.lung.org/policy-advocacy/tobacco/smokefree-environments/multi-unit-housing/secondhand-smoke-apartments https://www.lung.org/policy-advocacy/tobacco/smokefree-envir... https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/what-can-i-do-about-secondhand-smoke-coming-my-neighbors-apartment https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/what-can-i-do-abo... https://no-smoke.org/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-fact-sheet/ https://no-smoke.org/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-fact-sheet/ Second hand
          • mandmandam 3y ago
            When did the goalposts move from 'smelling cannabis in the air should be banned' to 'prolonged second hand smoke in the same room at cannabis dispensary levels has an effect on your blood vessels if you're a mouse'?
            • cscurmudgeon 3y ago
              Compare that with your zero cited sources. Cool do you have better studies? If so, please share! I await with bated breath (due to the nasty smoke both physically and here on HN). Whatever happened to "Trust the Science^TM" with marijuana?
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• cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  > Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. When it intrudes upon the bodily autonomy of others (e.g. second hand smoke, which I am constantly facing and suffering from in the Bay Area).
  • spurgu 3y ago
    Outdoors?