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Gosh I am so happy to have like the best senator in the senate next to Bernie Sanders in Oregon. Oregon is an extremely based state. Y'all crap on PDX but the

Gosh I am so happy to have like the best senator in the senate next to Bernie Sanders in Oregon. Oregon is an extremely based state. Y'all crap on PDX but the reality is that we have more freedom and less tyranny here than in any other state in the nation, and possibly in the world. PDX is "bad" because it's one of the only places in the world that hated the cops enough to actually muzzle them - and not living in fear of the boot is worth needing to deal with homeless people. Want to smoke weed? Check (lowest prices in the world). Want to do psychedelics? (functionally legalized) Check. Want to shoot guns? (relatively lax gun laws for a blue state) Check. Want to not be spied on? As check as Ron Wyden can make it!

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
> Want to smoke weed? The tyranny of the masses is still a tyranny. I'd personally like to move to a state where all smoking, but at least weed smoking, is illegal. I really don't like second hand smoke, especially when it smells and hangs as much as weed smoke does.
- drekk 3y ago
  It's already not legal to smoke in public for weed and in most places for cigarettes. Frankly I don't think outright prohibition addresses that any better than the existing system. Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. In all seriousness, Utah sounds like your ideal so long as you stay outside of Salt Lake City. I'm glad to no longer be a resident
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    > Utah sounds like your ideal Not enough trees. Nor enough employment in my non-remoteable field. Public smoking is a concern, but the smoke will leak even if smoked inside of a home. With edibles and inhalers I don't understand why people thought it was a good idea to legalize marijuana smoking. > Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. Generalizing the principle of the swinging your fists near someone else's nose saying.
    - mandmandam 3y ago
      Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. You do know that, right? I'm not detecting any humour markers...
      - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
        > Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. You do understand that many tort suits, and outright laws, are over subjective harms, right? (trash in neighbors yards, loud sounds late at night, smells from chemical industries, etcetera) That laws such as disability protection laws exist? https://www.chemicalsensitivityfoundation.org/index.html https://www.chemicalsensitivityfoundation.org/index.html
        mandmandam 3y ago
        ... None of your examples are like for like. Lots of people love the smell of cannabis. No one loves "trash in neighbors yards, loud sounds late at night, smells from chemical industries". Arguing in bad faith is lame dude.
        anonymouskimmer 3y ago
        > trash in neighbors yards There are entire messy neighborhoods. > loud sounds late at night People sleep at different times of the day. > smells from chemical industries People who lack a sense of smell don't care. Special pleading for marijuana smoking is also lame.
        cscurmudgeon 3y ago
        Blatantly ignoring harms of secondhand weed is more lame: Second hand weed is harmful. https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w...
        Forbo 3y ago
  - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
    > Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. When it intrudes upon the bodily autonomy of others (e.g. second hand smoke, which I am constantly facing and suffering from in the Bay Area).
    - spurgu 3y ago
      Outdoors?
- bozhark 3y ago
  This comment is rather obtuse. You want to live in a state where all smoking is illegal? Because you don’t like the smell of weed smoke? How interesting.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    > Because you don’t like the smell of weed smoke? No, not because I "don't like" it, but because the smell of weed smoke causes quality of life and health issues.
arcticfox 3y ago
> Want to smoke weed? Check (lowest prices in the world) One of the biggest reasons I'm happy I moved away from my home in Oregon. The second-hand weed smoke is gross.
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago
> Want to shoot guns? (relatively lax gun laws for a blue state) Your DA is determined to destroy this right by spending tax dollars appealing 114 until they find a judge who agrees with them.
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  Yeah it sucks, but I care the least about it tbh.
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago
    It's been my experience that you'll probably start caring after it's too late.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago

> Want to smoke weed? The tyranny of the masses is still a tyranny. I'd personally like to move to a state where all smoking, but at least weed smoking, is illegal. I really don't like second hand smoke, especially when it smells and hangs as much as weed smoke does.

drekk 3y ago
It's already not legal to smoke in public for weed and in most places for cigarettes. Frankly I don't think outright prohibition addresses that any better than the existing system. Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. In all seriousness, Utah sounds like your ideal so long as you stay outside of Salt Lake City. I'm glad to no longer be a resident
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > Utah sounds like your ideal Not enough trees. Nor enough employment in my non-remoteable field. Public smoking is a concern, but the smoke will leak even if smoked inside of a home. With edibles and inhalers I don't understand why people thought it was a good idea to legalize marijuana smoking. > Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. Generalizing the principle of the swinging your fists near someone else's nose saying.
  - mandmandam 3y ago
    Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. You do know that, right? I'm not detecting any humour markers...
    - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
      > Your sense of smell is subjective, and not a good reason for legislation. You do understand that many tort suits, and outright laws, are over subjective harms, right? (trash in neighbors yards, loud sounds late at night, smells from chemical industries, etcetera) That laws such as disability protection laws exist? https://www.chemicalsensitivityfoundation.org/index.html https://www.chemicalsensitivityfoundation.org/index.html
      - mandmandam 3y ago
        ... None of your examples are like for like. Lots of people love the smell of cannabis. No one loves "trash in neighbors yards, loud sounds late at night, smells from chemical industries". Arguing in bad faith is lame dude.
        anonymouskimmer 3y ago
        > trash in neighbors yards There are entire messy neighborhoods. > loud sounds late at night People sleep at different times of the day. > smells from chemical industries People who lack a sense of smell don't care. Special pleading for marijuana smoking is also lame.
        cscurmudgeon 3y ago
        Blatantly ignoring harms of secondhand weed is more lame: Second hand weed is harmful. https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w https://www.uclahealth.org/news/secondhand-marijuana-smoke-w...
        Forbo 3y ago
- cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  > Nor do I see how having bodily autonomy is necessarily a tyranny of the masses. When it intrudes upon the bodily autonomy of others (e.g. second hand smoke, which I am constantly facing and suffering from in the Bay Area).
  - spurgu 3y ago
    Outdoors?
bozhark 3y ago
This comment is rather obtuse. You want to live in a state where all smoking is illegal? Because you don’t like the smell of weed smoke? How interesting.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > Because you don’t like the smell of weed smoke? No, not because I "don't like" it, but because the smell of weed smoke causes quality of life and health issues.

arcticfox 3y ago

> Want to smoke weed? Check (lowest prices in the world) One of the biggest reasons I'm happy I moved away from my home in Oregon. The second-hand weed smoke is gross.

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago

> Want to shoot guns? (relatively lax gun laws for a blue state) Your DA is determined to destroy this right by spending tax dollars appealing 114 until they find a judge who agrees with them.

Der_Einzige 3y ago
Yeah it sucks, but I care the least about it tbh.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 3y ago
  It's been my experience that you'll probably start caring after it's too late.