5 ms·

They finally fixed the user agent! It used to be CrMo instead of Chrome, which broke a lot of sites. Back to Chrome now (with "Mobile" suffix to distinguish it

by lini 14y ago

They finally fixed the user agent! It used to be CrMo instead of Chrome, which broke a lot of sites. Back to Chrome now (with "Mobile" suffix to distinguish it from the desktop/tablet build) and the sites work.

Zikes 14y ago
There are still a lot of sites that sniff the UA rather than feature test?
- sp332 14y ago
  For mobile sites, UA sniffing uses less data and fewer round-trips, so (usually) happier visitors.
  - bergie 14y ago
    I wish they'll say Tablet on tablets instead of Mobile, like Firefox will do: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_user_agent_string_reference#Mobile_and_Tablet_indicators https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_user_agent_string_ref...
    - gcp 14y ago
      I wish website developers would stop using UA sniffing. WTH do you care whether it's a Tablet or a phone? Don't you frecking care for the resolution instead? What the heck are you going to do on a Galaxy Note? Are you serving the same site on a Wildfire S as you are serving a Galaxy Nexus? 9 times out of 10, whenever a webdev tries to be "smart" and serves up a mobile version of a website, I don't want it because it's a crippled, badly working knockoff of the real thing. Chrome and Firefox on Android are real browsers and can display the full site, so stop feeding them this crap. I heard there's a room in hell where you are forced to use various Android browsers on various mobile devices all day.
      - Zikes 14y ago
        This is why I'm thankful for the new responsive web design initiative. Same page, same resources, no more or less round-trips, just a different layout tailored to your screen size and density.
      - aphexairlines 14y ago
        Major e-commerce product detail page html for PC: 240775 bytes For smartphone: 15903 bytes For old phones (mostly text): 2369 bytes Server-side device detection does make a difference here, and in other footprints (initial external resources, backend services) as well.
        gcp 14y ago
        I think you just confirmed my complaint that smartphones get a crippled site. I don't think UA sniffing tells you what connection I am on, right?

by lini 14y ago

Zikes 14y ago

There are still a lot of sites that sniff the UA rather than feature test?

sp332 14y ago
For mobile sites, UA sniffing uses less data and fewer round-trips, so (usually) happier visitors.
- bergie 14y ago
  I wish they'll say Tablet on tablets instead of Mobile, like Firefox will do: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_user_agent_string_reference#Mobile_and_Tablet_indicators https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_user_agent_string_ref...
  - gcp 14y ago
    I wish website developers would stop using UA sniffing. WTH do you care whether it's a Tablet or a phone? Don't you frecking care for the resolution instead? What the heck are you going to do on a Galaxy Note? Are you serving the same site on a Wildfire S as you are serving a Galaxy Nexus? 9 times out of 10, whenever a webdev tries to be "smart" and serves up a mobile version of a website, I don't want it because it's a crippled, badly working knockoff of the real thing. Chrome and Firefox on Android are real browsers and can display the full site, so stop feeding them this crap. I heard there's a room in hell where you are forced to use various Android browsers on various mobile devices all day.
    - Zikes 14y ago
      This is why I'm thankful for the new responsive web design initiative. Same page, same resources, no more or less round-trips, just a different layout tailored to your screen size and density.
    - aphexairlines 14y ago
      Major e-commerce product detail page html for PC: 240775 bytes For smartphone: 15903 bytes For old phones (mostly text): 2369 bytes Server-side device detection does make a difference here, and in other footprints (initial external resources, backend services) as well.
      - gcp 14y ago
        I think you just confirmed my complaint that smartphones get a crippled site. I don't think UA sniffing tells you what connection I am on, right?