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> ""In this case, the federal government prohibited us from sharing any information," the company said in a statement. "Now that this method has become public w
by jodrellblank 3y ago
> ""In this case, the federal government prohibited us from sharing any information," the company said in a statement. "Now that this method has become public we are updating our transparency reporting to detail these kinds of requests.""
When they were building the CSAM detector: "what if the government asks you to extend the detection to include other media such as political meme images?" "we would refuse".
- rootusrootus 3y agoBeing prohibited from disclosure does not in any way refute their promise to refuse. It would make it hard to prove one way or the other, but that is not the same problem.
- nickthegreek 3y agoBut if they fail in their refusal, we would not know. So you have to treat it as if they have already failed and plan accordingly.
- AnthonyMouse 3y agoThis is really the conclusion of the debate over whether privacy protections should be legal or technological. The answer is both, which in particular means that they have to be technological. We need to prove their inability to defect with math because otherwise they can just lie about it. What you need from the law is the right for everybody to use that kind of technology by default.
- weikju 3y agoComment of the year (decade?), cannot upvote enough.
- 1oooqooq 3y agowow. Yahoo have a better track record than google or apple on figthing against that https://money.cnn.com/2014/09/11/technology/security/yahoo-fisa-court/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2014/09/11/technology/security/yahoo-f... I guess now the yahoo phone doesn't sound like that bad of a joke https://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/nokia_yahoo_onion-600x420.jpg https://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/nokia_y...
- richardwhiuk 3y agoBetter public track record. It's very difficult to reason about a hidden private track record.
- 1oooqooq 3y ago[flagged]
- gowld 3y agohttps://www.wbur.org/npr/190723995/google-asks-permission-to-publish-info-about-fisa-requests https://www.wbur.org/npr/190723995/google-asks-permission-to... https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-security-google/update-2-u-s-tech-firms-push-for-govt-transparency-on-security-idINL2N0EN1JB20130611/ https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-security-google/update-2...
- 1oooqooq 3y agobut yahoo legal team is the only one who did publish (though heavily redacted) documents after they won.
- readyplayernull 3y agoWe can safely assume they are already doing it, it's just that laws are coming slowly to normalize this survelance so they can't tell us just yet. Vote for those laws to learn more.