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In this one he admitted something about he said some very dumb shit on tweeter, so maybe his fans can accept that he does say dumb shit and stop defending that

In this one he admitted something about he said some very dumb shit on tweeter, so maybe his fans can accept that he does say dumb shit and stop defending that, let his lawyers and PR team defend him. IMO soon he will admit all this anti union stuff was also dumb.

andsoitis 3y ago
> so maybe his fans can accept that he does say dumb shit and stop defending that For what it’s worth, I don’t consider myself a fan, for the simple reason that I think no human is perfect or likable (Steve Jobs, Bach, Napoleon, Mother Theresa, to name a few). Instead it is better to evaluate someone’s ideas and impact. What is disappointing to me is that we (I count myself here too) make up a rigid opinion of people based on memes, sound bites, unnuanced morsels of information, rather than demonstrating deep curiosity. And so my responses on this thread should be viewed through the lens of surfacing more nuance and curiosity, rather than cheap and absolutist opinions that lack nuance. More conversation please.
fallingknife 3y ago
I like people who say what they mean and don't care what other people think even when they say things I disagree with. I hate people who read from PR scripts. So why would I not defend it?
- simion314 3y ago
  I do not understand, you like Elon because he says dumb shit, so you try to defend the dumb shit? How do you do that? You try to make the dumb shit look smart or you try to excuse Elon because maybe he was drunk/tired/drugged when he said that dumb shit ? When he admits it was dumb and his fans argued for hours that it was smart how do they feel?
  - fallingknife 3y ago
    Who doesn't say dumb shit sometimes? Why would that bother me?
    - simion314 3y ago
      >Who doesn't say dumb shit sometimes? Why would that bother me? I do not mean you should stop loving Elon if he says say some dumb stuff, but why should Elon fans defend dumb stuff with even more dumb arguments.

andsoitis 3y ago

> so maybe his fans can accept that he does say dumb shit and stop defending that For what it’s worth, I don’t consider myself a fan, for the simple reason that I think no human is perfect or likable (Steve Jobs, Bach, Napoleon, Mother Theresa, to name a few). Instead it is better to evaluate someone’s ideas and impact. What is disappointing to me is that we (I count myself here too) make up a rigid opinion of people based on memes, sound bites, unnuanced morsels of information, rather than demonstrating deep curiosity. And so my responses on this thread should be viewed through the lens of surfacing more nuance and curiosity, rather than cheap and absolutist opinions that lack nuance. More conversation please.

fallingknife 3y ago

I like people who say what they mean and don't care what other people think even when they say things I disagree with. I hate people who read from PR scripts. So why would I not defend it?

simion314 3y ago
I do not understand, you like Elon because he says dumb shit, so you try to defend the dumb shit? How do you do that? You try to make the dumb shit look smart or you try to excuse Elon because maybe he was drunk/tired/drugged when he said that dumb shit ? When he admits it was dumb and his fans argued for hours that it was smart how do they feel?
- fallingknife 3y ago
  Who doesn't say dumb shit sometimes? Why would that bother me?
  - simion314 3y ago
    >Who doesn't say dumb shit sometimes? Why would that bother me? I do not mean you should stop loving Elon if he says say some dumb stuff, but why should Elon fans defend dumb stuff with even more dumb arguments.