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It’s likely the five eyes allied nations.

ericmay 3y ago
Yep. Most likely to try and catch Chinese spies or other countries like India, Iran, Russia, and others as they continue to go after dissidents abroad.
- toyg 3y ago
  Or to track US activists and resell the information to the US government, in exchange for data on other five-eyes citizens or access to other surveillance systems (US ones are obviously the best, from a military standpoint).
  - ericmay 3y ago
    Or (insert country you have a political agenda against) to (do thing you disagree with) for the purposes of (pushing your own political agenda).
    - toyg 3y ago
      More like "or (insert country that shouldn't be doing something according to its own laws) to (do something against its own laws) for the purposes of (someone's profit)".
      - ericmay 3y ago
        Sure and that applies (at least) to the EU (and friends), US, UK, China, Russia, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, India, etc.
        toyg 3y ago
        Yeah but a lot of those are not democracies, nor do much business at intel level with the US.
        ericmay 3y ago
        Why would it matter if they are democracies or not? Why would it matter if they "do intel business" with the US, EU, UK, etc. ?
        toyg 3y ago
        Because that's what the source said they are.
        selimthegrim 3y ago
        Pakistan?
        toyg 3y ago
        Let me think - could it be the one country with a complicated situation where most of the security-services apparatus is nominally allied but actually supporting forces opposed to the US (talibans etc), with a sclerotic political system defaulting to military dictatorship every other decade; or the long-standing allied democracies (plural) with a well-documented history of structural cooperation in matters of espionage and surveillance, particularly at the IT level...? Which of the two would the US government rather let run surveillance on US citizens? Mmmh, I wonder! /s
        selimthegrim 3y ago
        They let Israel do it to Palestinian Americans.

Yep. Most likely to try and catch Chinese spies or other countries like India, Iran, Russia, and others as they continue to go after dissidents abroad.

toyg 3y ago
Or to track US activists and resell the information to the US government, in exchange for data on other five-eyes citizens or access to other surveillance systems (US ones are obviously the best, from a military standpoint).
- ericmay 3y ago
  Or (insert country you have a political agenda against) to (do thing you disagree with) for the purposes of (pushing your own political agenda).
  - toyg 3y ago
    More like "or (insert country that shouldn't be doing something according to its own laws) to (do something against its own laws) for the purposes of (someone's profit)".
    - ericmay 3y ago
      Sure and that applies (at least) to the EU (and friends), US, UK, China, Russia, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, India, etc.
      - toyg 3y ago
        Yeah but a lot of those are not democracies, nor do much business at intel level with the US.
        ericmay 3y ago
        Why would it matter if they are democracies or not? Why would it matter if they "do intel business" with the US, EU, UK, etc. ?
        toyg 3y ago
        Because that's what the source said they are.
        selimthegrim 3y ago
        Pakistan?
        toyg 3y ago
        Let me think - could it be the one country with a complicated situation where most of the security-services apparatus is nominally allied but actually supporting forces opposed to the US (talibans etc), with a sclerotic political system defaulting to military dictatorship every other decade; or the long-standing allied democracies (plural) with a well-documented history of structural cooperation in matters of espionage and surveillance, particularly at the IT level...? Which of the two would the US government rather let run surveillance on US citizens? Mmmh, I wonder! /s
        selimthegrim 3y ago
        They let Israel do it to Palestinian Americans.