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I would love to see an EU wide movement.
by FirmwareBurner 3y ago
I would love to see an EU wide movement.
- mrweasel 3y agoFor the Danish reporting there is an indication that what the unions really want is for Germany to join as that would create massive problems for Tesla.
- psychlops 3y agoIsn't that most of EU politics? Getting Germany to go along with what they want?
- mrweasel 3y agoIt does tend to help. I read somewhere that "Germany is financing the EU, but Bavaria is financing Germany", that probably not entirely true, but it is fun to think about.
- lnsru 3y agoI am in Munich right now. Bavaria should start doing something about this. Snow from Friday is still not taken care of. Public transportation still does not work. Pathetic.
- piva00 3y agoA friend of mine was supposed to move from Berlin to München for a job during last Saturday. He can't, trains were fucked, airport was closed, flight canceled and you can't trust DB during the best of days and weather, no way to be sure you will get there unless you have a car. Seems to be a complete clusterfuck, as someone living in the Nordics it's pretty funny to think that a bit of snow can simply grind to a halt the richest area of Germany.
- croes 3y agoBecause most employees cannot participate in wealth.
- fl7305 3y agoSouthern Sweden with 80% of the Swedish population rarely sees much snow. A few centimeters can cause big problems there too.
- patall 3y agoExactly. Stockholm experienced 10cm of snow last week and now ~-15°C (well, -20 in Uppsala) and the trains are in total chaos
- shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y agoNews flash. Stockholm is not in southern sweden. Also Stockholm subway is famous for breaking down even if a single leave fall on the tracks.
- patall 3y ago> Southern Sweden with 80% of the Swedish population > Stockholm is not in southern sweden Are you sure this the level of comments you are supposed to post here?
- fl7305 3y agoDang it, I got nerdsniped (https://xkcd.com/356/ https://xkcd.com/356/). With the help of ChatGPT, I crossreferenced two lists of all municipalities (kommuner) in Sweden to place them in an increasing latitude order (south->north), and calculated where the 80% population threshold lies. The answer is Västerås, which is a bit north of Stockholm. It is only 31.7% of the distance to the northernmost point in Sweden. So 80% of Sweden's population lives in the southernmost 32% of the country. This might not be called "Sydsverige" in Swedish, but describing it to a foreigner I think 32% qualifies as "Southern Sweden".
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoWDYM public transportation does not work?
- lnsru 3y agoIt’s in German: https://www.bild.de/regional/muenchen/muenchen-aktuell/schnee-chaos-warum-kann-muenchen-keinen-winter-86331818.bild.html https://www.bild.de/regional/muenchen/muenchen-aktuell/schne... This news source isn’t most reputable. But you get it from the pictures - the workers clean snow and ice by hand. We did it with neighbors on Saturday. It took 4 hours to remove 20 inches of snow without tractor for us.
- croes 3y agoThey should pay their workers more.
- martin_a 3y agoMarkus Söder is currently busy with getting a ban on gendered words going in schools. Obviously that's much more important than anything else. Prost! :-)
- The_Colonel 3y agoGerman gendered language is horrible. Not the most pressing issue, though.
- actionfromafar 3y agoI look forward to de-gendered German. And a riform on spelling. :)
- fallingknife 3y agoYou can make a good argument the other way, though. The common currency results in a weaker currency than the Deutsch mark would be if Germany wasn't in the Euro. This results in German exports being much more competitive. So in a way, the EU finances Germany.
- psychlops 3y agoUnless, of course, they want to buy imports with their not strong currency.
- croes 3y agoGermany can't, a judge from the Nazis times prohibited such strikes in the sixties. Edit: Seems like some need a history lesson about Hans Carl Nipperdey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_Nipperdey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_Nipperdey
- guerrilla 3y agoIG Metall already expressed solidarity, so it's really more of a question of how much it spreads and Germany and what particular actions they take.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoExpressing solidarity is the equivalent of sending "likes" or thoughts and prayers on social media.
- coince 3y agoAbove atricle would prove otherwise.
- vincnetas 3y agoNope, it called solidarity strike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action
- croes 3y agoWhich are forbidden in Germany. Thanks to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_Nipperdey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_Nipperdey who already stripped worker of their rights in the Nazi regime.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoYou forgot to mention Schröder's famous Agenda 2010[1] which defanged German unions and they didn't fight back: "There were no strikes against Agenda 2010 as the German constitution prohibits politically motivated strikes, but some demonstrations at least were organized and supported by the unions." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_2010 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_2010
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- mathverse 3y agoWould not happen. Musk should have established the factory in EE where the local labor would bend over to him.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoTo be fair, lack of labor regulations and "bending over to foreign investors", including German and EU ones, is what got Eastern Europe out if the grim post communism poverty. You can't have strong unions and labor regulations when you don't have your own captive world leading domestic industry like IKEA, Siemens, SAAB, Novo Nordisk, Bosch, Airbus, etc. Nobody would invest in your country.
- p_l 3y agoIt's also what's crippling progress in many places in Eastern Europe. Depressed wages and fighting on price only to be assembly plant for higher-tech components does not let you build local prosperity, it makes you fungible cheap labour.
- ponector 3y agoBetter to be a fungible labour on the assembly plant than be without the work. The alternative for eastern Europeans always was to go to UK or Germany and be a fungible labour there. Current strategy increased quality of life in EE countries. So far that in main cities in Poland housing prices are 4000-5000 USD per square meter.
- p_l 3y agoHousing prices are so high because there's not enough housing and sellers can dictate prices. And that prosperity isn't due to low-paid fungible labour, although believe me, the stereotypical polish boss tries hard to drive down the price of labour... And while it's better to be with work than without, living paycheck to paycheck in fear is not that great either, and doesn't exactly provide ways out. So sometimes we're left with just what solidarity we can arrange without legal representation, like the time entirety of one of my former workplaces left the job one day for what american management did to one of them.
- masklinn 3y agoFWIW southern unions are a lot weaker than the german and Nordic ones. So while they may or may not declare solitary, it would have a significantly smaller effect.
- waihtis 3y agoThe EU economy is doing so great, we can surely afford to introduce even more bureaucracy around doing business - perhaps even a new, separate committee that all business has to go through!
- derelicta 3y agoYou are right. Those businesses should simply be managed by the workers themselves. This way we wouldn't need parallel structures and we would still get proper representation for whose who create wealth themselves.
- waihtis 3y agoPerhaps (and hopefully) you're being sarcastic with that marxist lingo, but thinking the entire wealth resides in employees is like thinking a set of wheels is equivalent to a car. Integral, but useless without the organized framework around it.
- derelicta 3y agoWhy would I be sarcastic? I just think that if taxation without representation is theft, so must be wealth-creation without representation. But thankfully workers aren't mere wheels, and they can design the said framework themselves! Pretty much like peasants got to imagine parliements so as to gain the natural right to rule over themselves, despite kings and lords trying to convince them it was a silly and dangerous idea.