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>software should not be tied to politics. Why not? I mean, software is a product like any other. I for example wouldn't like if a group like ISIS was using my

by Xeamek 3y ago

>software should not be tied to politics. Why not? I mean, software is a product like any other. I for example wouldn't like if a group like ISIS was using my software, especially if they were using it to actively help them in commiting their crimes. If I could prevent that from happening, why shouldn't I?

lynx23 3y ago
The DSFG is a nice counter-example to your claim. Either something is unconditionally free, or it simply isn't.
- Xeamek 3y ago
  >either something is unconditionally free, or it simply isn't. Ok, it isn't. So what?
DeathArrow 3y ago
>Why not You have the right to hold you own political views, however you don't have the right to impose those on users of a particular software or participants in a software conference.
- Xeamek 3y ago
  If that software is mine and I control who can use it? I absolutely do have the (practical) right to impose those values, yes.
- viraptor 3y ago
  You sure do have the rights to do that. A more general you does anyway. You can't export software to certain countries, basically due to their political position. Multiple sanctions exist today. See also the licence giving the right to IBM to use the software for evil. https://gist.github.com/kemitchell/fdc179d60dc88f0c9b76e5d38fe47076 https://gist.github.com/kemitchell/fdc179d60dc88f0c9b76e5d38...
- hobofan 3y ago
  A sponsor/steward of the conference like the PSF certainly can ask for their Code of Conduct to be enforced in exchange for sponsorship. If what is in the Code of Conduct does not suite you, go find a different sponsor.
  - em-bee 3y ago
    A sponsor/steward of the conference like the PSF certainly can ask for their Code of Conduct to be enforced and that already happened by allowing them to call it pycon, as doing so requires permission from the PSF trademark workgroup. and one of the conditions is having a code of conduct.

by Xeamek 3y ago

lynx23 3y ago

The DSFG is a nice counter-example to your claim. Either something is unconditionally free, or it simply isn't.

Xeamek 3y ago
>either something is unconditionally free, or it simply isn't. Ok, it isn't. So what?

DeathArrow 3y ago

>Why not You have the right to hold you own political views, however you don't have the right to impose those on users of a particular software or participants in a software conference.

Xeamek 3y ago
If that software is mine and I control who can use it? I absolutely do have the (practical) right to impose those values, yes.
viraptor 3y ago
You sure do have the rights to do that. A more general you does anyway. You can't export software to certain countries, basically due to their political position. Multiple sanctions exist today. See also the licence giving the right to IBM to use the software for evil. https://gist.github.com/kemitchell/fdc179d60dc88f0c9b76e5d38fe47076 https://gist.github.com/kemitchell/fdc179d60dc88f0c9b76e5d38...
hobofan 3y ago
A sponsor/steward of the conference like the PSF certainly can ask for their Code of Conduct to be enforced in exchange for sponsorship. If what is in the Code of Conduct does not suite you, go find a different sponsor.
- em-bee 3y ago
  A sponsor/steward of the conference like the PSF certainly can ask for their Code of Conduct to be enforced and that already happened by allowing them to call it pycon, as doing so requires permission from the PSF trademark workgroup. and one of the conditions is having a code of conduct.