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Interesting. Computational mathematics has really very little to do with traditional CS topics.

thriftwy 3y ago
Traditional CS is not in vogue at ex-USSR universities. Poring over type systems and pure functions just never caught up over here, compared to good old Knuth-worth "close to metal" CS. Some SDEs do take interest in these topics independently, though.
- DeathArrow 3y ago
  What do they study in ex-USSR universities?
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    Data structures, low-level workings of CPU and other hardware, computational compexities, binary algebra, combinatorics and discrete maths. Throw in some logic circuits design. The same things they ask on FAANG interviews, coincidentally.
    - flopriore 3y ago
      It seems very similar to what we study in "Computer Science and Engineering" in Italy, which is a different degree from "Computer Science". The former is considered engineering, the latter isn't (pretty strange tbh, but that's how it works)
  - ivan_gammel 3y ago
    CM&C MSU masters -https://cs.msu.ru/sites/cmc/files/docs/sopostavlenie_magisterskih_programm_akademicheskih_grupp_i_kafedr.pdf https://cs.msu.ru/sites/cmc/files/docs/sopostavlenie_magiste... MIPT - https://mipt.ru/english/edu/master/ https://mipt.ru/english/edu/master/ There’s everything, including traditional CS topics (compilers etc), AI and quantum informatics.
  - avmich 3y ago
    I sometimes feel sad about one particular branch of study, which could be applied to speed up computers, which was active right when the USSR was collapsing. Konstantin Likharev, among others, from Moscow State University worked on Josephson junction logical gates which demonstrated - then, 30 years ago - switching frequencies which are still out of reach for at least the mainstream CPUs (in some hundreds of gigahertz). A bit hard to find good articles about that research today - this one, https://www.beilstein-journals.org/bjnano/articles/8/269 https://www.beilstein-journals.org/bjnano/articles/8/269 , is an example. I've heard it failed to produce a commercial product because it was really hard to miniaturize.
closewith 3y ago
What are the traditional CS topics?
- specialist 3y ago
  Sorting, searching, caching. (ducks)
  - timthorn 3y ago
    Naming things.
    - specialist 3y ago
      Ya, I second guessed myself. First in, then I thought "Naw, some pendant will say 'ackewlwally, that's software engineering'". Next time, I promise to take the principled stand.
    - flashback2199 3y ago
      CS not software engineering.
  - biomcgary 3y ago
    off by one
    - belter 3y ago
      Once and only once delivery
      - belter 3y ago
        Once and only once delivery
  - FiatLuxDave 3y ago
    In case anyone missed the ducks in the traditional CS curriculum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging https://themindcollection.com/atwoods-duck/ https://themindcollection.com/atwoods-duck/

Traditional CS is not in vogue at ex-USSR universities. Poring over type systems and pure functions just never caught up over here, compared to good old Knuth-worth "close to metal" CS. Some SDEs do take interest in these topics independently, though.

DeathArrow 3y ago
What do they study in ex-USSR universities?
- thriftwy 3y ago
  Data structures, low-level workings of CPU and other hardware, computational compexities, binary algebra, combinatorics and discrete maths. Throw in some logic circuits design. The same things they ask on FAANG interviews, coincidentally.
  - flopriore 3y ago
    It seems very similar to what we study in "Computer Science and Engineering" in Italy, which is a different degree from "Computer Science". The former is considered engineering, the latter isn't (pretty strange tbh, but that's how it works)
- ivan_gammel 3y ago
  CM&C MSU masters -https://cs.msu.ru/sites/cmc/files/docs/sopostavlenie_magisterskih_programm_akademicheskih_grupp_i_kafedr.pdf https://cs.msu.ru/sites/cmc/files/docs/sopostavlenie_magiste... MIPT - https://mipt.ru/english/edu/master/ https://mipt.ru/english/edu/master/ There’s everything, including traditional CS topics (compilers etc), AI and quantum informatics.
- avmich 3y ago
  I sometimes feel sad about one particular branch of study, which could be applied to speed up computers, which was active right when the USSR was collapsing. Konstantin Likharev, among others, from Moscow State University worked on Josephson junction logical gates which demonstrated - then, 30 years ago - switching frequencies which are still out of reach for at least the mainstream CPUs (in some hundreds of gigahertz). A bit hard to find good articles about that research today - this one, https://www.beilstein-journals.org/bjnano/articles/8/269 https://www.beilstein-journals.org/bjnano/articles/8/269 , is an example. I've heard it failed to produce a commercial product because it was really hard to miniaturize.

closewith 3y ago

What are the traditional CS topics?

specialist 3y ago
Sorting, searching, caching. (ducks)
- timthorn 3y ago
  Naming things.
  - specialist 3y ago
    Ya, I second guessed myself. First in, then I thought "Naw, some pendant will say 'ackewlwally, that's software engineering'". Next time, I promise to take the principled stand.
  - flashback2199 3y ago
    CS not software engineering.
- biomcgary 3y ago
  off by one
  - belter 3y ago
    Once and only once delivery
    - belter 3y ago
      Once and only once delivery
- FiatLuxDave 3y ago
  In case anyone missed the ducks in the traditional CS curriculum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging https://themindcollection.com/atwoods-duck/ https://themindcollection.com/atwoods-duck/