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Eh, this is called “marketing”… I’d like to see how they analyze other car advertisements for their accuracy as well.

by yuppiepuppie 3y ago

clouddrover 3y ago
Lying isn't marketing. It's just lying.
- that_guy_iain 3y ago
  https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Seth-Godin/dp/1591845335 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Seth-Godin/dp/1591845335 would disagree
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    Seth Godin can be wrong if he wants to be. It's possible to advertise without lying about your product.
    - yuppiepuppie 3y ago
      It’s certainly possible, and the right thing to do. But I have personally seen multiple times the “fake it till you make it” attitude in marketing products. I would have rather seen the other approach, but in the end it worked to get it off the ground.
- chaostheory 3y ago
  “All marketers are liars” A good portion of marketing is about lies that we (or other people) want to believe
- quantified 3y ago
  Lying overlaps marketing. The pizza you get never has the density of toppings in the ads, nor the soup all the chunky bits. Your battery life doesn't match the manufacturer claims. All the fine print spells out how you can't claim that prize. It's a spectrum with some tolerated boundaries, just like we abhor lies between people except for the ones we accept (Santa Claus to the kids, you have a beautiful smile, etc.) But this is, again, just another Tesla Musk lie. Perhaps he was just "being sarcastic."
  - vjjsejj 3y ago
    > Your battery life doesn't match the manufacturer claims They are still measuring that in a defined standardized way. It might be very different from real world conditions but that doesn’t mean that they are explicitly lying.
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    > The pizza you get never has the density of toppings in the ads, nor the soup all the chunky bits. In some countries (including the US, actually, I thought), regulators have started cracking down on this, though it certainly used to be the case that food photography was basically all about fraud.
    - yuppiepuppie 3y ago
      Any source on that crackdown?

Eh, this is called “marketing”… I’d like to see how they analyze other car advertisements for their accuracy as well.

clouddrover 3y ago

Lying isn't marketing. It's just lying.

that_guy_iain 3y ago
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Seth-Godin/dp/1591845335 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Seth-Godin/dp/1591845335 would disagree
- clouddrover 3y ago
  Seth Godin can be wrong if he wants to be. It's possible to advertise without lying about your product.
  - yuppiepuppie 3y ago
    It’s certainly possible, and the right thing to do. But I have personally seen multiple times the “fake it till you make it” attitude in marketing products. I would have rather seen the other approach, but in the end it worked to get it off the ground.
chaostheory 3y ago
“All marketers are liars” A good portion of marketing is about lies that we (or other people) want to believe
quantified 3y ago
Lying overlaps marketing. The pizza you get never has the density of toppings in the ads, nor the soup all the chunky bits. Your battery life doesn't match the manufacturer claims. All the fine print spells out how you can't claim that prize. It's a spectrum with some tolerated boundaries, just like we abhor lies between people except for the ones we accept (Santa Claus to the kids, you have a beautiful smile, etc.) But this is, again, just another Tesla Musk lie. Perhaps he was just "being sarcastic."
- vjjsejj 3y ago
  > Your battery life doesn't match the manufacturer claims They are still measuring that in a defined standardized way. It might be very different from real world conditions but that doesn’t mean that they are explicitly lying.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  > The pizza you get never has the density of toppings in the ads, nor the soup all the chunky bits. In some countries (including the US, actually, I thought), regulators have started cracking down on this, though it certainly used to be the case that food photography was basically all about fraud.
  - yuppiepuppie 3y ago
    Any source on that crackdown?