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> Liquid hydrogen is less than 1/3 the energy density of diesel by volume Yes, but in a ship volume is not a concern. > Liquid hydrogen also has difficulties
by credit_guy 3y ago
> Liquid hydrogen is less than 1/3 the energy density of diesel by volume
Yes, but in a ship volume is not a concern.
> Liquid hydrogen also has difficulties in terms of converting that energy into work
Check [1] out. Current diesel engines can be retrofitted to burn a mix of diesel and hydrogen that reduces emissions by 86%.
“If you just put hydrogen into the engine and let it all mix together you will get a lot of nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions, which is a significant cause of air pollution and acid rain,” Prof. Kook says.
“But we have shown in our system if you make it stratified – that is in some areas there is more hydrogen and in others there is less hydrogen – then we can reduce the NOx emissions below that of a purely diesel engine.”
> Again nuclear powered shipping has already existed for decades. The better part of a century, in fact. Piracy and rogue states have not been a problem.
Nuclear powered warships have existed for decades. Civilian nuclear power ships were a rarity. Most were Russian icebreakers, operating in the arctic, where pirates are quite hard to find.
The idea you are proposing is to start putting nuclear reactors on thousands of ships that would criss-cross the world's oceans on a daily basis. It's just not going to happen. And if you want to put them only on a handful, why bother? They won't make a dent in the emissions.
[1] https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/new-system-retrofits-diesel-engines-run-90-cent-hydrogen https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/new-system-re...
- elzbardico 3y agoRussia still operates and builds nuclear icebreakers.
- _aavaa_ 3y ago> Current diesel engines can be retrofitted to burn a mix of diesel and hydrogen that reduces emissions by 86%. There is a large gulf between something that has worked in a research lab once and something that is ready to be commercialized and ready to be implemented in a working ship. Further, unless they have a way of producing carbon-free hydrogen at all the ports that this ship would have to dock at, then it won't be saving us CO2 emissions.
- credit_guy 3y ago> There is a large gulf between something that has worked in a research lab once and something that is ready to be commercialized and ready to be implemented in a working ship. Your point is correct generally speaking. But here we are comparing modifying a combustion engine to make it burn hydrogen, versus modifying a ship to make it run on nuclear power. Which gap do you think is wider?
- _aavaa_ 3y agoGiven that there already exist many military ships running on nuclear reactors, the gap for one is smaller than you imply.