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They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. People who don't like advertisements are removing them without looking at them. They are retalia

They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. People who don't like advertisements are removing them without looking at them. They are retaliating by trying to force them to look at the ads or to otherwise mess with them getting the free items in a timely manner in the first place. Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me.

crazygringo 3y ago
> Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me. I still don't see how it has anything to do with a tantrum. A tantrum is someone yelling and screaming because they aren't getting what they want. This is Google getting exactly what it wants, and I don't see any yelling and screaming. It's just quietly asserting its rights to block adblockers.
- ehaliewicz2 3y ago
  Does google really have the right to block my control over what is shown or not shown on my computer? They may have the ability to do so, but that is not necessarily equivalent to a right. For example, what if I had a robot that detected when an ad was being played on youtube, and automatically turned off my monitor and headphones momentarily, turning them back on once the ad was over. Would that violate google's "rights"?
  - flohofwoe 3y ago
    The German gonvernment (or rather the "Federal Office for Information Security") actually recommends to install an ad-blocker. So there's that ;) https://www.bsi.bund.de/EN/Themen/Verbraucherinnen-und-Verbraucher/Informationen-und-Empfehlungen/Cyber-Sicherheitsempfehlungen/Updates-Browser-Open-Source-Software/Der-Browser/Adblocker-Tracking/adblocker_tracking.html?nn=921404#doc921400bodyText4 https://www.bsi.bund.de/EN/Themen/Verbraucherinnen-und-Verbr...
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    > Does google really have the right to block my control over what is shown or not shown on my computer? In general? Of course not. On a webpage they serve to you? Of course they have the right to, to the extent JavaScript makes it possible. What possible legal basis could there be for them not to have that right? With limited exceptions, they have the right to do wherever they want with their webpage code. And there is no legal exception against blocking adblockers.
    - ehaliewicz2 3y ago
      You didn't answer my hypothetical. Do they have the right to ensure that I am looking at their ads? I don't see how they could, I can always look away. In that case, what is the effective difference between that and ad blockers that control what code/images run/display on my computer?
throw0101b 3y ago
> They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. The are not "giving things away": they have terms of service. The agreement is: pay for premium or watch the ads. (This way they can pay their bills (including employee salaries and the creators that make the content).)
- godshatter 3y ago
  I am going to a publicly available web page, that they provide for the purpose of consuming their content, using standard protocols. I'm just filtering some of it out on my end on the computer I own and control. I don't see anything wrong with this, no matter what BS they might try to claim in their TOS.

crazygringo 3y ago

> Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me. I still don't see how it has anything to do with a tantrum. A tantrum is someone yelling and screaming because they aren't getting what they want. This is Google getting exactly what it wants, and I don't see any yelling and screaming. It's just quietly asserting its rights to block adblockers.

ehaliewicz2 3y ago
Does google really have the right to block my control over what is shown or not shown on my computer? They may have the ability to do so, but that is not necessarily equivalent to a right. For example, what if I had a robot that detected when an ad was being played on youtube, and automatically turned off my monitor and headphones momentarily, turning them back on once the ad was over. Would that violate google's "rights"?
- flohofwoe 3y ago
  The German gonvernment (or rather the "Federal Office for Information Security") actually recommends to install an ad-blocker. So there's that ;) https://www.bsi.bund.de/EN/Themen/Verbraucherinnen-und-Verbraucher/Informationen-und-Empfehlungen/Cyber-Sicherheitsempfehlungen/Updates-Browser-Open-Source-Software/Der-Browser/Adblocker-Tracking/adblocker_tracking.html?nn=921404#doc921400bodyText4 https://www.bsi.bund.de/EN/Themen/Verbraucherinnen-und-Verbr...
- crazygringo 3y ago
  > Does google really have the right to block my control over what is shown or not shown on my computer? In general? Of course not. On a webpage they serve to you? Of course they have the right to, to the extent JavaScript makes it possible. What possible legal basis could there be for them not to have that right? With limited exceptions, they have the right to do wherever they want with their webpage code. And there is no legal exception against blocking adblockers.
  - ehaliewicz2 3y ago
    You didn't answer my hypothetical. Do they have the right to ensure that I am looking at their ads? I don't see how they could, I can always look away. In that case, what is the effective difference between that and ad blockers that control what code/images run/display on my computer?

throw0101b 3y ago

> They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. The are not "giving things away": they have terms of service. The agreement is: pay for premium or watch the ads. (This way they can pay their bills (including employee salaries and the creators that make the content).)

godshatter 3y ago
I am going to a publicly available web page, that they provide for the purpose of consuming their content, using standard protocols. I'm just filtering some of it out on my end on the computer I own and control. I don't see anything wrong with this, no matter what BS they might try to claim in their TOS.