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I don't think the Open Source claim is accurate. From their repo "Magicoder models are trained on the synthetic data generated by gpt-3.5-turbo-1106 developed b

I don't think the Open Source claim is accurate. From their repo "Magicoder models are trained on the synthetic data generated by gpt-3.5-turbo-1106 developed by OpenAI. Please pay attention to OpenAI's terms of use when using the models and the datasets."

PostOnce 3y ago
OpenAI behaves as though everyone else's outputs are fair game for training LLMs, including GPT, but doesn't want others using GPT's output? So, when OpenAI does it, it's transformative, but when we do it, it's not? That's not right, and I don't think the courts will rule in their favor.
- tarruda 3y ago
  > That's not right, and I don't think the courts will rule in their favor. Especially if you consider that all of OpenAI code training data comes from open Github repositories.
- abrookewood 3y ago
  Yes, I totally agree. They are more than happy to make money off the backs of copyright holders.
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Zambyte 3y ago
> Please pay attention to OpenAI's terms Just because people at a company tell you how to behave doesn't mean you need to comply
- startupsfail 3y ago
  Or you can do the right thing and avoid distilling that stinky model, like they’ve asked.
  - graphe 3y ago
    What makes it the "right thing" and who decided it was right?
  - vore 3y ago
    Does the fact someone asks you not to do something inherently make it the right thing? Especially when what they've asked is hypocritical?
ipsum2 3y ago
All model outputs (text, image, video) are considered public domain in the US, so they can be used for whatever.
- oneshtein 3y ago
  It's not true. Compiler output is not public domain. Why LLVM output should be different? Both ingests some and output some code as result.
  - ipsum2 3y ago
    Not sure why you brought up compiler output, I'm talking about generative machine learning models.
  - naveen99 3y ago
    Compiler output isn’t owned by the compiler writer, but the compiler user usually.

PostOnce 3y ago

OpenAI behaves as though everyone else's outputs are fair game for training LLMs, including GPT, but doesn't want others using GPT's output? So, when OpenAI does it, it's transformative, but when we do it, it's not? That's not right, and I don't think the courts will rule in their favor.

tarruda 3y ago
> That's not right, and I don't think the courts will rule in their favor. Especially if you consider that all of OpenAI code training data comes from open Github repositories.
abrookewood 3y ago
Yes, I totally agree. They are more than happy to make money off the backs of copyright holders.

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Zambyte 3y ago

> Please pay attention to OpenAI's terms Just because people at a company tell you how to behave doesn't mean you need to comply

startupsfail 3y ago
Or you can do the right thing and avoid distilling that stinky model, like they’ve asked.
- graphe 3y ago
  What makes it the "right thing" and who decided it was right?
- vore 3y ago
  Does the fact someone asks you not to do something inherently make it the right thing? Especially when what they've asked is hypocritical?

ipsum2 3y ago

All model outputs (text, image, video) are considered public domain in the US, so they can be used for whatever.

oneshtein 3y ago
It's not true. Compiler output is not public domain. Why LLVM output should be different? Both ingests some and output some code as result.
- ipsum2 3y ago
  Not sure why you brought up compiler output, I'm talking about generative machine learning models.
- naveen99 3y ago
  Compiler output isn’t owned by the compiler writer, but the compiler user usually.