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Seems like those accounts violated a rule around doxxing. The account that tracked Elon's private jet in real time was banned and those accounts were linking to

Seems like those accounts violated a rule around doxxing. The account that tracked Elon's private jet in real time was banned and those accounts were linking to it on other platforms. You can disagree with the rule on real time doxxing, or argue that it is irregularly enforced, but your comment seems to be a kind of misinformation where you omit the causal link.

FireBeyond 3y ago
Ahh, then the FAA is doxxing him, then! Before you talk about that Elon tried to keep his jet private above and beyond that: * the jet is registered to a company with a very SpaceX-y name * the registered office of that company's street address is "1 Space Drive" * when you search that address, Google reports, "Businesses associated with this address: SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company".
ceejayoz 3y ago
The rule was made afterwards. It was a retcon to justify his actions. https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk5yx/elon-musk-had-his-most-absurd-disturbing-24-hours-at-twitter-yet https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk5yx/elon-musk-had-his-mos... > On Wednesday, Twitter chief Elon Musk banned accounts he said he never would in order to protect free speech, made up new rules to justify it, threatened legal action against a 20-year-old, pontificated on how doxing is banned on the platform, and then immediately posted a video doxing a man and asked his 121 million followers to identify him. > Twitter then retroactively added a new policy that banned accounts "dedicated to sharing someone's live location." He had previously publicly promised not to ban the account. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 It is very clear that if Musk wants you off Twitter enough, he's kicking you off Twitter.
- ALittleLight 3y ago
  No, Twitter clarified a policy against doxxing that had previously existed. If I gave you a list of accounts banned by the previous owners and said "Dorsey banned these guys because he was mad at them!" And then it turned out the accounts were all racists, it might be true that Dorsey didn't like them, but the reason they were banned was the racism and that's true even if Twitter had to post hoc clarify their terms of service. Analogously, sharing the current location of celebrities, automated in real time, is clearly problematic behavior and related to doxxing which is already against the rules. That's what those accounts were banned for, and again, you are simply lying by trying to conflate the cause.
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    Confident but evidence-free assertions, but again, Musk's promise not to ban the account remains online. You can take a look if you like.
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    - ALittleLight 3y ago
      You provided "evidence" in the form of news articles that directly refuted your own claims. The articles explain why those accounts were banned. It's fine that you dislike Musk for whatever reason but you shouldn't lie about him and it is a lie to say that he banned accounts he didn't like and use examples where he banned people for violating the rules.
      - ceejayoz 3y ago
        > You provided "evidence" in the form of news articles that directly refuted your own claims. I directly quoted the news article supporting my claims. You can say black is white, but it's not very believable when people can just scroll up and look.
        ALittleLight 3y ago
        Selectively quoting from the news article to omit the reason is exactly what I'm accusing you of.
        infotainment 3y ago
        Protip: if you really don't want to admit defeat in an internet argument, it's usually a better look to just stop responding. Let me paste the quote for you: > My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk - @elonmusk
QuercusMax 3y ago
They weren't "tracking his jet"; it's already being tracked, they're just surfacing the already-available data.
- ALittleLight 3y ago
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  - iamevn 3y ago
    You've described a good thing that I also believe is not "tracking" in the "stalking" sense but "tracking" in a surfacing publicly available data way.
spencerflem 3y ago
Here's one example https://themessenger.com/tech/elon-musk-bans-popular-poster-who-skewered-him-for-eliminating-headlines-on-x https://themessenger.com/tech/elon-musk-bans-popular-poster-...
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  Another: https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/ https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...

FireBeyond 3y ago

Ahh, then the FAA is doxxing him, then! Before you talk about that Elon tried to keep his jet private above and beyond that: * the jet is registered to a company with a very SpaceX-y name * the registered office of that company's street address is "1 Space Drive" * when you search that address, Google reports, "Businesses associated with this address: SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company".

ceejayoz 3y ago

The rule was made afterwards. It was a retcon to justify his actions. https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk5yx/elon-musk-had-his-most-absurd-disturbing-24-hours-at-twitter-yet https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjk5yx/elon-musk-had-his-mos... > On Wednesday, Twitter chief Elon Musk banned accounts he said he never would in order to protect free speech, made up new rules to justify it, threatened legal action against a 20-year-old, pontificated on how doxing is banned on the platform, and then immediately posted a video doxing a man and asked his 121 million followers to identify him. > Twitter then retroactively added a new policy that banned accounts "dedicated to sharing someone's live location." He had previously publicly promised not to ban the account. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 It is very clear that if Musk wants you off Twitter enough, he's kicking you off Twitter.

ALittleLight 3y ago
No, Twitter clarified a policy against doxxing that had previously existed. If I gave you a list of accounts banned by the previous owners and said "Dorsey banned these guys because he was mad at them!" And then it turned out the accounts were all racists, it might be true that Dorsey didn't like them, but the reason they were banned was the racism and that's true even if Twitter had to post hoc clarify their terms of service. Analogously, sharing the current location of celebrities, automated in real time, is clearly problematic behavior and related to doxxing which is already against the rules. That's what those accounts were banned for, and again, you are simply lying by trying to conflate the cause.
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  Confident but evidence-free assertions, but again, Musk's promise not to ban the account remains online. You can take a look if you like.
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  - ALittleLight 3y ago
    You provided "evidence" in the form of news articles that directly refuted your own claims. The articles explain why those accounts were banned. It's fine that you dislike Musk for whatever reason but you shouldn't lie about him and it is a lie to say that he banned accounts he didn't like and use examples where he banned people for violating the rules.
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      > You provided "evidence" in the form of news articles that directly refuted your own claims. I directly quoted the news article supporting my claims. You can say black is white, but it's not very believable when people can just scroll up and look.
      - ALittleLight 3y ago
        Selectively quoting from the news article to omit the reason is exactly what I'm accusing you of.
        infotainment 3y ago
        Protip: if you really don't want to admit defeat in an internet argument, it's usually a better look to just stop responding. Let me paste the quote for you: > My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk - @elonmusk

QuercusMax 3y ago

They weren't "tracking his jet"; it's already being tracked, they're just surfacing the already-available data.

ALittleLight 3y ago
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- iamevn 3y ago
  You've described a good thing that I also believe is not "tracking" in the "stalking" sense but "tracking" in a surfacing publicly available data way.

spencerflem 3y ago

Here's one example https://themessenger.com/tech/elon-musk-bans-popular-poster-who-skewered-him-for-eliminating-headlines-on-x https://themessenger.com/tech/elon-musk-bans-popular-poster-...

ceejayoz 3y ago
Another: https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/ https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...