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> because Apple have deeply coupled iMessage to the OS No they haven't. On my Mac it's just an app and a reusable framework. There is nothing stopping them re
by threeseed 3y ago
> because Apple have deeply coupled iMessage to the OS
No they haven't. On my Mac it's just an app and a reusable framework.
There is nothing stopping them releasing it on the App Store similar to Mail.
- afavour 3y agoI’m talking about the iPhone.
- threeseed 3y agoMessages is the same on OSX and iOS. It's not deeply integrated into the iOS by any normal definition. It's just shipped together.
- andygeorge 3y agofwiw it hasn't been called "OSX" for awhile now
- lotsofpulp 3y agoThe Messages app in macOS is less capable than the Messages app in iOS. It cannot even edit sent messages.
- a_carbon_rod 3y agoIt can, by right clicking the desired message to edit. This is in macOS Sonoma, and I believe was a part of Ventura as well.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoOh interesting, I have a 2015 MacBook Air. Wonder if the feature is not available on whatever macOS version I have.
- SllX 3y agoIt’s a Ventura and later feature and your MacBook Air probably topped out around Monterey or earlier. 2016 MacBooks Pro also didn’t make the cut for Ventura.
- chatmasta 3y agoMessages has a bunch of special privileges on iOS, which is why they had to add the whole Blastdoor protection framework and why it's such a juicy target for sandbox escape exploits.
- saagarjha 3y agoNope. It just happens to be on everyone’s device and usually enabled
- chatmasta 3y agoYes, and when it's enabled it has more privileges than most other apps, doesn't it? But yeah you can still remove the app. Btw, maybe related, on iOS I have "app privacy report" enabled, to show me a list of apps and the recent entitlements they used. Every Apple app, even those that don't need access to them, is shown as having recently accessed my Contacts. I find this weird. Anyone know why they do that? e.g. I've never even used the Health app and yet it's accessing my Contacts for some reason.
- saagarjha 3y agoIt’s basically the same as any other app, there are some special permissions it has to integrate with the OS a bit better but nothing too interesting. Not sure what’s going on with Contacts but it might be a bug?
- saagarjha 3y agoMail is also deeply coupled to the OS. The app itself does very little.
- afavour 3y ago> There is nothing stopping them releasing it on the App Store similar to Mail. In the sense that the app is just a wrapper around a system framework, sure. But changing that framework would be an OS release.