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>That culture of “hardwork = reward” is long behind us. No it's certainly not. I think it's a convenient excuse to not work hard though. People talk. I always

>That culture of “hardwork = reward” is long behind us. No it's certainly not. I think it's a convenient excuse to not work hard though. People talk. I always get asked, "we're hiring, you know anybody?" I would recommend someone who works hard and never mention someone who doesn't. I had a brilliant but lazy colleague who I've never recommended to anybody. Every job I've had in the last 25 or so years is because I worked hard and someone noticed and recommended me when they switched jobs or knew someone who was hiring. My first job out of college I had to do the recruiter/interview thing. I worked hard. Every job since has been an offer over lunch. Working hard matters a great deal.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
Working smart matters even more. Some jobs require more working hard (re: long hours and 6 days per week) than working smart though, and obviously employers love employees who want less money per time. As an employee though, you want to work smart. And that might be working longer SOMETIMES to learn skills, but the chollida1’s post does not give me that vibe. You only get your 20s once, and while they might have thought it worthwhile to trade them for financial security in their 40s and 50s, I wouldn’t say that is an optimal move, or even a necessary sacrifice. It is the main reason I would advise my kids from becoming doctors. The sacrifices the system asks are far too much. I had much more fun than my doctor friends and they did not end up better off. Spend time with family and friends, do leisure activities that you won’t be able to do when older, etc.
- Clubber 3y ago
  >Working smart matters even more. I mean yea. Hammering a board to your head all day for 12 hours won't accomplish anything. I figured that goes without saying.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    The second paragraph here is what I meant. https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=lordnacho https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=lordnacho

lotsofpulp 3y ago

Working smart matters even more. Some jobs require more working hard (re: long hours and 6 days per week) than working smart though, and obviously employers love employees who want less money per time. As an employee though, you want to work smart. And that might be working longer SOMETIMES to learn skills, but the chollida1’s post does not give me that vibe. You only get your 20s once, and while they might have thought it worthwhile to trade them for financial security in their 40s and 50s, I wouldn’t say that is an optimal move, or even a necessary sacrifice. It is the main reason I would advise my kids from becoming doctors. The sacrifices the system asks are far too much. I had much more fun than my doctor friends and they did not end up better off. Spend time with family and friends, do leisure activities that you won’t be able to do when older, etc.

Clubber 3y ago
>Working smart matters even more. I mean yea. Hammering a board to your head all day for 12 hours won't accomplish anything. I figured that goes without saying.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  The second paragraph here is what I meant. https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=lordnacho https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=lordnacho