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This is a wonderful project. It highlights how silly Apple is. For those defending the existence of green bubbles, why don’t we swap blue with green then? Would

by ronyeh 3y ago

This is a wonderful project. It highlights how silly Apple is. For those defending the existence of green bubbles, why don’t we swap blue with green then? Would you be okay with all your iMessages in that ugly green while your SMSes with Android friends are in calming blue? I am typing this on an iPhone 15 pro max and I have several MacBook pros (M3 Max on the way) and everyone in my family has their own iPad. I hate that Apple has created this thing where some folks ostracize others because they can taint your group chat with ugly green.

iwontberude 3y ago
A moment where we can all learn from those with blue/green color vision deficiency. Who sees the world more accurately in this context?
ggreer 3y ago
SMS messages on iOS have always been green. iMessage was released four years after the original iPhone.
- ronyeh 3y ago
  People keep telling me this as an excuse but the original color scheme was more pleasing to the eye. The current color scheme is painful to the eyes. I know because I see the ugly green bubbles on my messages app on my iPhone. I also have an iPhone 3 in a drawer that sadly no longer works. You know you wouldn’t want to swap the green and blue bubbles.
  - cityofdelusion 3y ago
    I run dual sim, so my other number is not enrolled in iMessage and is all green. I don’t care and imagine most people don’t. It’s a neutral, normal, natural green color.
    - ronyeh 3y ago
      I’m glad the white text on green is neutral and pleasing to your eyes. I wish I could change just that one color in my iMessage app without messing up the rest of my iOS color scheme.
  - qup 3y ago
    It's 2023, why can't the iMessage app allow some user preferences. Christ.
    - ronyeh 3y ago
      Apple.
  - jxdxbx 3y ago
    Instant messages on the Mac were the same green for a decade before that.
- markus92 3y ago
  They used to be black-on-green, now they are white-on-green. iMessage also used to be black-on-blue, see the announcement at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBIgjodpFs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBIgjodpFs
evgen 3y ago
Absolutely lqughing at anyone who thinks the particular colors matter. Ugly green? Calming blue? The specific color does not matter, the only thing that matters is that they are differentiated for the Star-Belly Sneetches hadbellies with stars and the Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars...
- johnsillings 3y ago
  fantastic reference
- sudosysgen 3y ago
  The color kind of does matter, it pains me to read white on light green.
- nwienert 3y ago
  Actually the green is far less saturated, making it less contrasting with the white text, making it look much worse.
klardotsh 3y ago
I'm so glad I don't have friends who give a darn what color my texts show up in - or the ones who do, are using customizable SMS clients on Android/Linux phones/who-cares-what. iOS makes culture wars where there is no need to have one, for people too immature to have better things to worry about.
sircastor 3y ago
It's not the "ugly green bubble" that people hate, and ostracize others because of. It's the limitations of SMS messages coming into an iMessage group chat that can mess up the whole experience. Media is crappy, group messages don't work well, it's not encrypted. That said, It doesn't justify people being jerks about it. And yes, if the colors got swapped it would turn out the same - nobody cares about the color. I grant that the blues chosen probably have a branding and emotional draw to them, but this is seriously not about the color of the bubble.
- kayson 3y ago
  That's not entirely true. By one metric, at least, the green bubble is "uglier" - https://uxdesign.cc/how-apple-makes-you-think-green-bubbles-gross-e03b52b12fed https://uxdesign.cc/how-apple-makes-you-think-green-bubbles-...
  - ronyeh 3y ago
    Thank you. Old school iOS SMS used black text which was much more readable. It’s as if I’m writing with yellow highlighter on white paper. Painful. Worse, it changes the color of (gasp) the iPhone owner’s outgoing messages. So as an android user, you’re messing up MY texts and ruining MY perception of myself. Ugh. Yes, humans are stupid. But it would be nice if Apple let me customize the colors in my app. I did just pay them over $2K for new phones for my wife and me.
    - VincentEvans 3y ago
      Normal people choose an app that works for everyone. If they can’t be bothered to switch to something, like Telegram, or Whatsapp, or Discord, or Line or Signal, or… is because they value your companionship not worth the bother. So buy an iphone to fit in, or respect yourself a bit more and move on and find a better group to interact with.
      - sircastor 3y ago
        I think we started using WhatsApp for our family communication because my wife (the only Android user) _hates_ group messages. She hates them because the SMS experience has been so crappy in a mixed environment, but iOS users (my mom, our exchange students, our nanny) default to it in messages because it’s so easy otherwise .
hedgehog 3y ago
Who cares what the color is? One message type is E2E encrypted over Apple's infrastructure, and you can message while not on cell. The other is not E2E and may have carrier billing and whatever other restrictions on it.
- tomrod 3y ago
  XMPP/Pidgin coming back!
  - greatquux 3y ago
    Seriously I don't have the chops or time to do it, but creating a Pidgin wrapper around this tech would be awesome. Just for basic texts/emoticons, it helps a lot with Teams and WhatsApp chats already for me (along with the Pidgin notification extension for GNOME that pops up a box I can type a quick reply into wherever I am).

by ronyeh 3y ago

iwontberude 3y ago

A moment where we can all learn from those with blue/green color vision deficiency. Who sees the world more accurately in this context?

ggreer 3y ago

SMS messages on iOS have always been green. iMessage was released four years after the original iPhone.

ronyeh 3y ago
People keep telling me this as an excuse but the original color scheme was more pleasing to the eye. The current color scheme is painful to the eyes. I know because I see the ugly green bubbles on my messages app on my iPhone. I also have an iPhone 3 in a drawer that sadly no longer works. You know you wouldn’t want to swap the green and blue bubbles.
- cityofdelusion 3y ago
  I run dual sim, so my other number is not enrolled in iMessage and is all green. I don’t care and imagine most people don’t. It’s a neutral, normal, natural green color.
  - ronyeh 3y ago
    I’m glad the white text on green is neutral and pleasing to your eyes. I wish I could change just that one color in my iMessage app without messing up the rest of my iOS color scheme.
- qup 3y ago
  It's 2023, why can't the iMessage app allow some user preferences. Christ.
  - ronyeh 3y ago
    Apple.
- jxdxbx 3y ago
  Instant messages on the Mac were the same green for a decade before that.
markus92 3y ago
They used to be black-on-green, now they are white-on-green. iMessage also used to be black-on-blue, see the announcement at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBIgjodpFs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBIgjodpFs

evgen 3y ago

Absolutely lqughing at anyone who thinks the particular colors matter. Ugly green? Calming blue? The specific color does not matter, the only thing that matters is that they are differentiated for the Star-Belly Sneetches hadbellies with stars and the Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars...

johnsillings 3y ago
fantastic reference
sudosysgen 3y ago
The color kind of does matter, it pains me to read white on light green.
nwienert 3y ago
Actually the green is far less saturated, making it less contrasting with the white text, making it look much worse.

klardotsh 3y ago

I'm so glad I don't have friends who give a darn what color my texts show up in - or the ones who do, are using customizable SMS clients on Android/Linux phones/who-cares-what. iOS makes culture wars where there is no need to have one, for people too immature to have better things to worry about.

sircastor 3y ago

It's not the "ugly green bubble" that people hate, and ostracize others because of. It's the limitations of SMS messages coming into an iMessage group chat that can mess up the whole experience. Media is crappy, group messages don't work well, it's not encrypted. That said, It doesn't justify people being jerks about it. And yes, if the colors got swapped it would turn out the same - nobody cares about the color. I grant that the blues chosen probably have a branding and emotional draw to them, but this is seriously not about the color of the bubble.

kayson 3y ago
That's not entirely true. By one metric, at least, the green bubble is "uglier" - https://uxdesign.cc/how-apple-makes-you-think-green-bubbles-gross-e03b52b12fed https://uxdesign.cc/how-apple-makes-you-think-green-bubbles-...
- ronyeh 3y ago
  Thank you. Old school iOS SMS used black text which was much more readable. It’s as if I’m writing with yellow highlighter on white paper. Painful. Worse, it changes the color of (gasp) the iPhone owner’s outgoing messages. So as an android user, you’re messing up MY texts and ruining MY perception of myself. Ugh. Yes, humans are stupid. But it would be nice if Apple let me customize the colors in my app. I did just pay them over $2K for new phones for my wife and me.
  - VincentEvans 3y ago
    Normal people choose an app that works for everyone. If they can’t be bothered to switch to something, like Telegram, or Whatsapp, or Discord, or Line or Signal, or… is because they value your companionship not worth the bother. So buy an iphone to fit in, or respect yourself a bit more and move on and find a better group to interact with.
    - sircastor 3y ago
      I think we started using WhatsApp for our family communication because my wife (the only Android user) _hates_ group messages. She hates them because the SMS experience has been so crappy in a mixed environment, but iOS users (my mom, our exchange students, our nanny) default to it in messages because it’s so easy otherwise .

hedgehog 3y ago

Who cares what the color is? One message type is E2E encrypted over Apple's infrastructure, and you can message while not on cell. The other is not E2E and may have carrier billing and whatever other restrictions on it.

tomrod 3y ago
XMPP/Pidgin coming back!
- greatquux 3y ago
  Seriously I don't have the chops or time to do it, but creating a Pidgin wrapper around this tech would be awesome. Just for basic texts/emoticons, it helps a lot with Teams and WhatsApp chats already for me (along with the Pidgin notification extension for GNOME that pops up a box I can type a quick reply into wherever I am).