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Your comment make it sounds like that's inherently negative. Google/OpenAI are drumming their message of "AI needs to be in the hands of the few" while Meta is

by belval 3y ago

Your comment make it sounds like that's inherently negative. Google/OpenAI are drumming their message of "AI needs to be in the hands of the few" while Meta is actually releasing models and building a thriving open-source ecosystem. If they create an alliance so that the voice of "AI needs to be in the hands of everyone" then this is a splendid effort. Despite the connotation, lobbying is about a group making sure that Washington hears about their opinion.

soulbadguy 3y ago
> lobbying is about a group making sure that Washington hears about their opinion. If it was just hearing opinion we wouldn't have any problem. Nobody pays that kind of money for just being heard. This is about shaping the future in a way that they think is best (which is usually best for them, not much for the rest of us) > If they create an alliance so that the voice of "AI needs to be in the hands of everyone" then this is a splendid effort. I find it naive to believe that the purpose of a for profit organization is anything but making profit. Meta move here is not altruistic, it's a simple "commodify your compliment" play.
- belval 3y ago
  > I find it naive to believe that the purpose of a for profit organization is anything but making profit. Where did I imply that Meta is doing it out of the kindness of their heart? Of course they want money and of course they think this "open" approach will lead to more money. That doesn't change the fact that as an individual right now my opinions on regulating AI are more aligned with Meta's philosophy than Google and OpenAI. Both of which are equally doing this for their own profit.
  - soulbadguy 3y ago
    > Meta is doing it out of the kindness of their heart? Meta is a company, deosn't have a heart nor understand the concept of kindness.
btwillard 3y ago
Obviously it depends on exactly what those opinions will end up being. It's hard to dispel the idea that every other big company isn't trying to find a way to do exactly the same things as the other big players, just somewhere else down the line. My anticompetitive-potential detector definitely went off as soon as I read that headline.
m3kw9 3y ago
It does sound negative because it wrote a bunch of bs but it sure look like a lobby group, but the competition is great to challenge closed AI models
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by belval 3y ago

soulbadguy 3y ago

> lobbying is about a group making sure that Washington hears about their opinion. If it was just hearing opinion we wouldn't have any problem. Nobody pays that kind of money for just being heard. This is about shaping the future in a way that they think is best (which is usually best for them, not much for the rest of us) > If they create an alliance so that the voice of "AI needs to be in the hands of everyone" then this is a splendid effort. I find it naive to believe that the purpose of a for profit organization is anything but making profit. Meta move here is not altruistic, it's a simple "commodify your compliment" play.

belval 3y ago
> I find it naive to believe that the purpose of a for profit organization is anything but making profit. Where did I imply that Meta is doing it out of the kindness of their heart? Of course they want money and of course they think this "open" approach will lead to more money. That doesn't change the fact that as an individual right now my opinions on regulating AI are more aligned with Meta's philosophy than Google and OpenAI. Both of which are equally doing this for their own profit.
- soulbadguy 3y ago
  > Meta is doing it out of the kindness of their heart? Meta is a company, deosn't have a heart nor understand the concept of kindness.

btwillard 3y ago

Obviously it depends on exactly what those opinions will end up being. It's hard to dispel the idea that every other big company isn't trying to find a way to do exactly the same things as the other big players, just somewhere else down the line. My anticompetitive-potential detector definitely went off as soon as I read that headline.

m3kw9 3y ago

It does sound negative because it wrote a bunch of bs but it sure look like a lobby group, but the competition is great to challenge closed AI models

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